The Philosopher is Dead, Long Live the Philosopher
Think Aristotelianism went out with Galileo? Think again—teleological language is rampant in the evolution literature because that is how evolutionists think. A
new paper in
Nature Communications on dietary influences on bird evolution states that “birds that attend army ant raids have to deal with the unpredictability of those raids, and have developed cognitive and behavioural adaptations
to surpass these challenges.” As usual, the infinitive form tells the tale. This isn’t a one-off slip of the pen. The underlying Aristotelianism in evolutionary thought has been noted repeatedly. Evolutionists have even scolded themselves for their malapropisms. But they can’t stop describing evolution as a target-driven, goal-oriented, design-like process. It just makes no sense otherwise.
Cognitive and behavioral changes happen in real time and trump anything natural selection can do.
ReplyDelete"Cognitive and behavioral changes happen in real time and trump anything natural selection can do."
DeleteThe hope for this is the only reason people communicate with you.
LoL! What a pathetic little imp you are, WS. But I understand that it upsets you that you are a spineless troll who couldn't understand science if its life depended on it
DeleteJoke G
ReplyDeleteIt's the OoL that violates the 2nd law.
I don't want this gem to get lost.
Tell us Joke, exactly how does OOL violate the 2nd law of thermo? I suppose in toaster repair school they never taught you about endothermic chemical reactions.
How does your IDiot Designer get around the 2LoT?
Timmy, To refute me just show us how stochastic processes can produce life from non-life. Show your work! Or shut up
DeleteHow does your Intelligent Designer get around the 2LoT?
DeleteIntelligent Designers can arrange matter and energy for their own purpose.
Look, your ignorance is not an argument.
Another day, another post of Joke running away from his incredibly stupid claims.
DeleteSeems natural processes in creating the first life violate the 2LoT but Joke's supernatural Designer creating the first life somehow is fine.
How does that work Joke? You made the claim, now back it up.
OK so Timmy doesn't have anything. Typical
DeleteID doesn't require the supernatural, moron.
You made the claim, now back it up.
DeleteSelf-unaware- your position makes thousands of claims it can't support. Life from non-life via stochastic processes is just one of them.
Grow up
And BTW if my claim is stupid then you should be able to refute it. Yet, like the coward that you are, you won't even try.
DeleteAnd another prediction fulfilled.
DeleteLife is good...
Joke
DeleteAnd BTW if my claim is stupid then you should be able to refute it.
I already did Joke. Endothermic reactions work by using an external energy source. When abiogenesis happened on Earth the sun had already been shining for hundreds of millions of years. Do you think the sun isn't a source of energy?
You say any stupid thing that pops into your ignorant YEC tiny brain.
LoL! How does that refute my claim? How does that show stochastic processes can produce life from non-life?
DeleteHow does just adding energy solve anything?
You must be the most desperate and moronic person ever
Joe: "Intelligent Designers can arrange matter and energy for their own purpose."
DeleteOK. Finally something about the nature of the designer from Joe. So, the designer can bypass the 2nd law. Good to know.
Joe: "ID doesn't require the supernatural, moron."
Nothing in nature can ignore the 2nd law. But the designer can. But ID doesn't require the supernatural. But it requires a supernatural designer.
My head hurts tryin to make sense of Joe's logic.
The Sun's energy reaches all of the planets in the system. Jupiter is teeming with energy and chemical reactions yet no life.
DeleteLOL! Joe doubles down on his stupidity. Energy is required for Ool along with the specific physical conditions. Not all energy from the sun falls on matter with those conditions.
DeleteBTW Joke how do you know there's no life on Jupiter?
So still nothing to support your claim, got it. What are those specific physical conditions and why can't scientists figure it out?
Deletehow do you know there's no life on Jupiter?
DeleteIt's called science- that is what has you confused
Joke
Deletehow do you know there's no life on Jupiter?
It's called science- that is what has you confused
Then show us the science which demonstrated there is no life on Jupiter. The correct answer is we have no idea if there's life on Jupiter or its moons because we haven't looked yet.
Watching you say these stupid things is very entertaining. Watching you squirm to try and cover for the stupidity is priceless. :)
GR: "how do you know there's no life on Jupiter?"
Deletejoke: "It's called science- that is what has you confused"
In the immortal (and inane) words of toaster-boy-So still nothing to support your claim, got it.
Science supports my claim. If you knew anything about it you would understand.
DeleteThere isn't any water on Jupiter. There isn't any surface on Jupiter.
Joke
DeleteScience supports my claim.
Then show us the science Chubs. Show us the science which demonstrated conclusively there is no life on Jupiter or its moons.
Bluff called, Chubs folds again. :D
I never said anything about its moons, loser. And I have explained the science- no water and no surface
DeleteHow do you know there's no water in the lower layers Chubs? Oh, that's right. You're too stupid to realize ice is a form of water. Life also doesn't a surface Chubs.
DeleteAnother stupid claim he can't defend from Chub's teeny YEC brain
LoL! How could living organisms arise without a surface? Do tell
DeleteAnd I see that you are too stupid to understand the difference between ice and water
You're the one who claims a surface is necessary Chubs. But like all the stupidity you blurt out you can't support the claim.
DeleteWhy is water required? Water, unlike ice, is a solvent and chemicals can be mixed in it.
DeleteBut then again Timmy is too stupid to understand that
You're the one who claims a surface is necessary
DeleteIt is and you made the opposite claim.
You need a place to mix the chemicals, dipstick. You need the materials a terrestrial planet.
That is not controversial to anyone with any knowledge of science.offers
Read "Rare Earth" Timmy. I know that you won't read "The Privileged Planet" and "Rare Earth" was written by evos so it should satisfy you.
DeleteFat Joke
DeleteWhy is water required? Water, unlike ice, is a solvent and chemicals can be mixed in it.
How do you know there's no liquid water in Jupiter's lower layers? And water isn't the only fluid chemicals can mix in.
Joe's too stupid and cowardly to back up his claims. Ho hum.
Once again we see Joke's favorite cowardly evasion "go read these IDiot lies".
DeleteRead "Rare Earth", Timmy.
DeleteThere isn't any evidence for water in Jupiter. But we know that evidence is something that you don't care about
"Rare Earth" was written by evos, Timmy. Are you saying your scientists are idiots? Really?
DeleteLoL!
Squirming Joke
DeleteYou need a place to mix the chemicals, dipstick. You need the materials a terrestrial planet.
Show us the science that demonstrates those are the only possible conditions for life to form Chubs. Listening to belch gas from that big mouth is getting boring.
"Rare Earth" you ignorant pinhead.
DeleteAnd BTW there aren't any conditions in which life can form spontaneously.
DeleteLoL! A distinction without a difference.
DeleteCome on timmy tell us how life could form on Jupiter. I dare you
Timmy has lost it and he now says evo scientists are idiots because they refute its nonsense
DeleteJoke
Delete"Rare Earth"
Rare doesn't mean exclusive you moron. Just like "haven't discovered yet" doesn't mean impossible.
LoL! Timmy focuses on the title and not what is in the book Typical for an ignorant coward.
DeleteI never said earth was exclusive, moron. As a matter of fact given ID I would expect more Earths with technology-capable life.
Here comes Chub's second favorite excuse - shifting the burden of proof.
DeleteYou claimed there was no life on Jupiter fat Joke. That's your burden to show, not science's to disprove.
Science has said there isn't any life on Jupiter, moron. Science says the conditions are way too hostile for life, dipstick.
DeleteLook you have made claims that you have refused to support and you think if you get all belligerent then you win. Sorry but science refutes your ignorance, Timmy.
Lying Joke
DeleteScience has said there isn't any life on Jupiter
Liar. Site the scientific reference that demonstrates the claim.
Read any science book on Jupiter. Or remain willfully ignorant.
DeleteWe know which tact you will take.
Science has said there isn't any life on Jupiter
DeleteRead "Rare Earth"
As an avid reader, I have come across many books that proposed the idea of life on Jupiter. Some even proposed that Jupiter is lifeless, but its moons harbor advanced life forms. Is there life on Jupiter? While there have been no samples taken that could test for microscopic life on the planet, there is quite a bit of compelling evidence that shows there is no possible way for life as we know it to exist anywhere on the planet. Try this link for one scientist’s take on finding life in the cosmos.
Deletehttp://www.universetoday.com/15134/is-there-life-on-jupiter/
Fat Joke is having a field day with his stupid claims. First it's OOL violates the 2Lot, then it's science has proven no life on Jupiter, then it's science has proven there's no liquid water on Jupiter.
DeleteGood thing Joe's ass is so big, all the things he pulls from it. :D
Joe: "LoL! How could living organisms arise without a surface? Do tell."
DeleteI thought you said that the designer could do whatever he wanted with energy and matter. So the lack of a surface should be no impediment. Or is this just your human's first religious bias showing.
Besides, there is plenty of surface on Jupiter. Every particle of dust has surface, and there are millions of tons of it in the Jupiter atmosphere.
I can support all the claims except for no water on Jupiter as there may be droplets, somehow that have survived the pressures and temperatures.
DeleteBTW there isn't any "on Jupiter" as it is a gaseous planet.
Psst..moron Joke..."life as we know it on Earth is improbable" doesn't equal "any form of life is demonstrated to be impossible"
DeleteMoron Gallien fails again.
Timmy chokes:
Deletelife as we know it on Earth is improbable" doesn't equal "any form of life is demonstrated to be impossible"
Do tell about this other type of life. Or just admit that you are just a desperate fool
Joe's Designer is a supernatural entity who created the entire universe for humans and can violate the 2LoT at will. Yet this same omnipotent Designer can't put life on Jupiter.
DeleteJoe still wonders why the whole internet laughs at him.
Timmy lies like a desperate puss because it cannot make a case.
DeleteID still doesn't require the supernatural nor an omnipotent designer. You must be a desperate coward.
Joe: "Intelligent Designers can arrange matter and energy for their own purpose."
DeleteMe: "I thought you said that the designer could do whatever he wanted with energy and matter."
Joe: "I didn't say that. Obviously you are just an ignoramus o"
Caught in a lie again. Or was that a typo again?
ghostrider,
Delete"How does your IDiot Designer get around the 2LoT?"
As he is omnipotent and the actual source of the 2nd law, he has no problem whatsoever getting around it if he so chooses.:)
ghostrider,
Delete"When abiogenesis happened on Earth,..."
So when, where and how did this happen. Be specific and give us the time and the place this occurred and the mechanism nothing used to make this event happen.
Sure the sun is a source of energy. Sort of. But it is not a source of information. The information is coming from somewhere. So where pray tell.
DeleteJoke
ReplyDeleteID doesn't require the supernatural
The how did the Designer create life without violating the 2LoT as you claim?
Like I said, that one's going into the IDiot Hall of Fame. :)
I already answered your question, moron.
DeleteYou mean you crapped your pants and ran from the question like you always do.
DeleteJoke
DeleteMy answer:
Intelligent Designers can arrange matter and energy for their own purpose.
That didn't answer the question Joke. You claim Ool violates the 2Lot. How did the Designer manage Ool without violating the 2Lot as you claim?
You don't have an answer because the original claim is so stupid. It's fun watching your lard ass squirm however.
Joke
DeleteOnly a stochastic OoL violates the law
HOW Joke? How does stochastic Ool violate the 2LoT?
Your pie hole keeps flapping but no explanations are coming out.
Again, all you have to do to refute me is to demonstrate such a thing is possible. But you can't so you are forced into your typical belligerence.
DeleteRead Walter Bradley’s chapter on “Information, Entropy and the Origin of Life.” It is covered there
DeleteJoe: "Read Walter Bradley’s chapter on “Information, Entropy and the Origin of Life.” It is covered there"
DeleteThe 2nd law doesn't cover information. But nice try.
Joe knows he stuck his fat foot deep into his mouth with this one and is desperately trying to squirm out.
DeleteLoL! Timmy is to chicken to take on Walter Bradley.
DeleteYou made the claim Joke. It's a pretty stupid claim even by your low standards which is why you can't back it up.
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DeleteTimmy TuTu:
DeleteYou made the claim
And Bradley backs it up. Your willful ignorance is neither an argument nor a refutation
Poor Chubs. Squirms and squirms but can't back up his stupid claim.
DeleteRead Walter Bradley’s chapter in“Information, Entropy and the Origin of Life.” It is covered there.
DeleteHe goes over why it violates the 2nd law.
OR if you really want to make this personal meet me and let's get it over with, coward
DeleteThen tell us in your own words Chubs. Don't shirk responsibility be saying "go read these IDiot lies in an IDiot published book".
DeleteThe 2nd law doesn't cover information. But nice try.
DeleteIt covers entropy. But nice try with your ignorance.
Joe: "Moron that is the title of the BOOK and not the chapter I was referring to.
DeleteJoe: "Read Walter Bradley’s chapter on “Information, Entropy and the Origin of Life.” It is covered there"
Maybe a lesson or two in basic grammar would help you getting your point accross. Or do you just make stuff up as you go along? (Rhetorical question, because we all know the answer).
Then tell us in your own words
DeleteAgain if you want to make this personal just meet me and we can get it over with, coward.
Fat Joke
DeleteOR if you really want to make this personal meet me and let's get it over with, coward
LOL! Here we go, Joke becomes internet tough guy when he can't defend his stupidity any longer.
Why would anyone want to meet your dumb ass Chubs? Especially since you're famous for giving bogus addresses and running away?
It was a typo and entropy is still covered the the 2nd law, douche.
DeleteRead Bradley and respond if you can. Or stuff it
Bradley supports my claim, Timmy. Your willful ignorance is still neither an argument nor a refutation.
DeleteAnd you are tha ass trying to be a bully. I am just standing up to your cowardice
Read Walter Bradley’s chapter in “Information, Entropy and the Origin of Life.” It is covered there.
DeleteHe goes over why it violates the 2nd law.
Or remain ignorant and abusive
Fat Joke with his usual excuses. Can't back up his stupid claim, says "go read other IDiot lies".
DeletePitiful internet tough guy Chubs.
You're the only one demanding to meet people in person fat Joke. Why is that?
DeleteBecause they are trying to be bullies when in fact they are just cowards.
DeleteI hate both and especially when they are abusive dicks like you. You want to make this personal, why is that?
You want to try to make this personal yet cower when I say let's go
Is it OK to meet at your house then Joke? Do you still live on 6 Blue Ave. in Ashburnham? Will your wife mind if lots of strange men show up to visit?
DeleteJoe: "It was a typo..."
DeleteThis is a day that is worth celebrating. Everybody will remember this as the day that Joe admitted a mistake. I am so happy to have lived long enough to see it. Now if we can only get him to admit that wavelength does not equal frequency.
"...and entropy is still covered the the 2nd law, douche."
Did I ever state that it wasn't? I said that information wasn't.
LoL! I dare you to show up at my house Timmy. My pit and doberman like to play with strangers.
DeleteNow if we can only get him to admit that wavelength does not equal frequency.
DeleteThen why, when I adjust the frequency knob on my signal generator, does only the wavelength change?
Did I ever state that it wasn't? I said that information wasn't.
That you ignored the entropy part was the telltale sign.
So does your wife I'm told.
DeleteShe has nothing on your mother, though.
DeleteYou're welcome to try dating my mother Joke. She passed over 15 years ago. You wife on the other hand is probably desperate to meet someone who can offer her more than 3" and 30 seconds of grunting.
DeleteSo you finally drove your mother to the grave. Congratulations.
DeleteYou wife on the other hand is probably desperate to meet someone who can offer her more than 3" and 30 seconds of grunting.
I doubt my wife has ever met you so she doesn't know about 3" and 30 seconds of grunting
Gotta feel for these tormented Darwinists. Desperately clinging to the cliff's edge while knowing the fall is coming.
ReplyDeleteAny idea when this collapse of ToE will happen? You guys have been predicting ToE's death for over 150 years but so far it's still going strong. Your credibility is just a teeny bit lacking. :)
DeleteOh, you must be one of the desperate clingers. What a charming little primate. Let the lecture begin.
DeleteThe collapse of your secular religion is ongoing and gradual. Darwinian evolution is a proven fraud (deep down you know it!), and more and more people see through your phony appeals to magic under the guise of science.
You and your kind are the worst kind of hypocrites. You blindly worship your little bitty god (Charles Darwin and his zealots) while criticizing anyone who dares to have faith in a transcendent Being/Mind. You hypocrites have more blind faith than most religious people I know.
You poor irrational creature. You are blind to your own foolishness. Please know that I am sending you love, prayers...and lots of pity.
At what point would you say evolutionary theory has collapsed? When it stops making good predictions? When the evidence against it becomes overwhelming? When the majority of people stop believing it?
Deleteghostrider,
Delete"Any idea when this collapse of ToE will happen? You guys have been predicting ToE's death for over 150 years but so far it's still going strong. Your credibility is just a teeny bit lacking. :)"
It already has, long ago. That the majority of the scientific community continues to prop it up doesn't change the facts. That they continue to flog a dead horse does not mean it is going get up and continue to pull the carriage. :)
Truth Will Set You Free
DeleteOh, you must be one of the desperate clingers. What a charming little primate. Let the lecture begin.
Well, me and a few million other working scientists. And a few thousand colleges and universities. And several hundred professional science journals. And dozens of scientific fields from paleontology to zoology to genetics.
Amazing how many desperate clingers there are, innit? :)
Nic
DeleteGR: "Any idea when this collapse of ToE will happen?
It already has, long ago.
Darn. I guess you Creationists just plain forgot to tell the scientific community. :)
"The collapse of your secular religion is ongoing and gradual."
DeleteAnd as slow as plate tectonics.
ghostrider,
Delete"Darn. I guess you Creationists just plain forgot to tell the scientific community. :)"
They have been told, repeatedly, but they have refused to face the facts. Apparently they are very attached to that horse.:)
Dirt worshipper:
DeleteAnd as slow as plate tectonics.
And as sudden as a seismic event. Wait for it.
Nic
DeleteThey have been told, repeatedly, but they have refused to face the facts.
Maybe if the Creationists actually demonstrated these supposedly fatal problems instead of putting on their tin foil caps and claiming them, science would be less inclined to ignore them as religious nutballs.
Mapou: "And as sudden as a seismic event. Wait for it."
DeleteI hope that you are better at predicting ToE demise than Dembski was. I guess the two papers published in BioComplexity in the last couple years is just the start.
Dirt worshipping maggot:
DeleteI guess the two papers published in BioComplexity in the last couple years is just the start.
Not at all. It will come from the one place you least expect. It will be sudden, unexpected and merciless. Wait for it. It won't be too much longer.
I'll be watching the whole thing unfold with a beer in one hand, a bag of cheetos in the other and a smirk on my face.
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Fruit Loop Louis
DeleteI'll be watching the whole thing unfold with a beer in one hand, a bag of cheetos in the other and a smirk on my face.
And a tin foil hat on your head no doubt.
LOL
DeleteChristophobic atheist homosexcual Timothy Horton:
And a tin foil hat on your head no doubt.
Funny. No but I might also invite Madam Bong over for the feast. She never disappoints.
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ghostrider,
Delete"Maybe if the Creationists actually demonstrated these supposedly fatal problems instead of putting on their tin foil caps and claiming them, science would be less inclined to ignore them as religious nutballs."
Nope, wouldn't make a speck of difference.
It's like the story of the man who was convinced he was dead and no amount of talking would make him believe otherwise. Finally a psychiatrist convinced the man the people who are actually dead do not bleed. Once the man conceded that dead men don't bleed the psychiatrist cut the dead man's arm with a knife.
How do you suppose the dead man reacted?
Nic
DeleteNope, wouldn't make a speck of difference.
We'll never know since Creationist can never provide this ToE killing evidence anywhere. Creationists have as much chance of convincing the scientific community with their antics as flat-Earthers do in convincing NASA the world isn't a globe.
Christophobic atheist homosexual Timothy Horton, the dirt worshipping pooferist:
DeleteMaybe if the Creationists actually demonstrated these supposedly fatal problems instead of putting on their tin foil caps and claiming them, science would be less inclined to ignore them as religious nutballs.
LOL. And this religious precious gem is brought to you by none other than a superstitious dirt worshipper who insists that the universe poofed itself into existence and that inert dirt gave birth to living organisms. And it all happened using some mysterious and magical poofery.
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Christophobic atheist homosexual Timothy Horton, the dirt worshipping pooferist:
DeleteCreationists have as much chance of convincing the scientific community with their antics as flat-Earthers do in convincing NASA the world isn't a globe.
Only spineless creationists like Nic. Why would anybody try to convince a community of spineless jackasses of anything. This is a pooferist cult we're talking about here. These are people who believe that the universe poofed itself into existence, as if by magic. You lying jackasses are worse than a cargo cult. You are actually trying to harm other people and indoctrinate them with your superstition.
We will not allow a bunch of stupid and spineless maggots to rule over us. You can bet on it.
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This is a normal brain.
DeleteHumans and chimps share a common ancestor
This is a fruit loop brain on drugs.
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This is a normal brain:
DeleteEverything was designed and created.
This is a Christophobic atheist homosexual being himself:
Living organisms and the universe poofed themselves into existence.
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ghostrider,
Delete"We'll never know since Creationist can never provide this ToE killing evidence anywhere."
Actually, ToE provides enough evidence on its own to demonstrate the nonsense of evolutionary theory.
As for the flat Earth reference, the last time I heard anything about it, the president of The Flat Earth Society was a gentleman named Daniel Shenton who just so happens to be an atheistic evolutionist. Now isn't that telling? :)
We'll never know since Creationist can never provide this ToE killing evidence anywhere.
DeleteWhat ToE? Why can't anyone link to it?
Humans and chimps share a common ancestor
DeleteOnly losers say that. And no one can demonstrate such a thing. The premise is untestable and because of that unscientific.
BTW, the below link reveals the depths of stupidity in our culture.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/materialism-makes-you-stupid/
I agree. Anyone who takes Barry Arrington's blithering seriously is indeed pretty stupid.
DeleteWhos is more stupid, the one who claims that the universe and living organisms were designed and created or the brain-dead jackass who insists that life sprung out of inert dirt and morphed into monkeys and whales?
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PS. Yo Horton. When are you going to come out of the closet and admit that you are a Christophobic atheist homosexual and that the only reason that you are here is that you got a bone to pick with Christianity? LOL
Again with the homosexuality. I think thou dost protest too much.
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu_hC-8OIME
You ain't seen nothing yet, dirt worshipper. You two spineless maggots need to grow some gonads and admit that you are indeed Christophobic atheist homosexuals and that you are not here to discuss science but to attack Christianity. After all, your dirt worshipping science is obviously crap.
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Map's off his meds again.
DeleteLOL. How about you? Are you taking medication to reduce your gonads?
DeleteOops! I forgot to laugh.
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Phew!
Well said, Louis. These wayward Darwinists are only here for entertainment purposes. Their arguments are absolute garbage and their reasoning is weak. But hey, they make for a good laugh once in awhile. Poor wretched souls.
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