tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post5118272357884821245..comments2024-01-23T02:32:28.567-08:00Comments on Darwin's God: That Silly Belief That Life is Sacred and InviolableUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger147125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-75686757729267491842012-12-02T18:26:43.180-08:002012-12-02T18:26:43.180-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11311738457332907931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-18696146033016120062012-12-02T18:24:39.862-08:002012-12-02T18:24:39.862-08:00natschuster December 1, 2012 3:05 PM
Ian H Spedd...<i><b>natschuster</b> December 1, 2012 3:05 PM<br /><br />Ian H Spedding:<br /><br />People knew about natural selection because they saw things get sick and die. What Darwin did was assert that natural selection could improve species the way that natural selection did. </i><br /><br />No, as I said before, people had learnt over hundreds of years that animals could be altered by selective breeding, horses could be made bigger or stronger or that could run faster. That was <i>artificial</i> selection.<br /><br />Darwin saw that if animals had an inbuilt capacity for change then that should respond to natural pressures as well as man's influences - hence <i>natural</i> selection.<br /><br />As for improvement, in evolution that only means that an animal has become fitter, meaning <i>better fitted</i> to its environment. For example, an antelope is able to run a bit faster than other antelope as a result of a random mutation. As a result, it stands a better chance of outrunning predators and surviving long enough to pass on its lucky mutation. Thus, that anelope is better fitted to its environment than the others.<br /><br /><i><br />Anyway, the question wasn't whether evolution should lead to eugenics, but whether it has lead to eugenics. I do believe that it has.</i><br /><br />Okay, so the theory of evolution led to eugenics. Does that say anything about whether the theory is right or wrong. Christianity led to the Spanish Inquisition. Does that mean that Christianity is totally wrong?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11311738457332907931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-8634983037538873672012-12-01T15:05:03.339-08:002012-12-01T15:05:03.339-08:00Ian H Spedding:
People knew about natural selecti...Ian H Spedding:<br /><br />People knew about natural selection because they saw things get sick and die. What Darwin did was assert that natural selection could improve species the way that natural selection did. <br /><br />Anyway, the question wasn't whether evolution should lead to eugenics, but whether it has lead to eugenics. I do believe that it has. natschusterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13127240463824366637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-68917743736925870722012-12-01T12:42:14.960-08:002012-12-01T12:42:14.960-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-81601461069576941262012-12-01T12:41:08.877-08:002012-12-01T12:41:08.877-08:00No, they never had one. But I understand that you ...No, they never had one. But I understand that you have to lie about other people in order to make yourself feel good.Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-13754478754184758542012-12-01T12:39:58.755-08:002012-12-01T12:39:58.755-08:00thorton, so upset that he is an ignorant punk, has...thorton, so upset that he is an ignorant punk, has to lie about other people to make himself feel goodJoe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-2486214949326695452012-12-01T11:40:33.555-08:002012-12-01T11:40:33.555-08:00Ian H Spedding
Shouldn't we blame eugenics on...<i>Ian H Spedding<br /><br />Shouldn't we blame eugenics on agriculture?</i><br /><br />According to these guys God made eugenicists. That means we need to blame eugenics on God.Ghostriderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686873801972423841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-54349832988154220232012-12-01T11:38:39.354-08:002012-12-01T11:38:39.354-08:00Good job I got a screen cap of your deleted posts,...Good job I got a screen cap of your deleted posts, dishonest Joe!Rich Hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18037140349297065008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-5917918358580349932012-12-01T11:25:56.761-08:002012-12-01T11:25:56.761-08:00So what teachings did you have. Did you read the K...So what teachings did you have. Did you read the Koran and find it true?Rich Hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18037140349297065008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-30913006718117728482012-12-01T11:18:12.615-08:002012-12-01T11:18:12.615-08:00Joe G
Tweedos doesn't have "an all you c...<i>Joe G<br /><br />Tweedos doesn't have "an all you can eat cheesy breadsticks" deal...</i><br /><br />Not any more they don't! Good job ruining a good thing ChubsGhostriderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686873801972423841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-79909536816774799652012-12-01T10:23:55.916-08:002012-12-01T10:23:55.916-08:00"It will have to be outside. I understand Twe..."It will have to be outside. I understand Tweedo's banned you because you were making them lose money on their "all you can eat cheesy breadsticks" deal." - ROFL.Rich Hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18037140349297065008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-81959411191217072532012-12-01T10:19:42.292-08:002012-12-01T10:19:42.292-08:00Joe makes Thorton's point for him.
Joe, remem...Joe makes Thorton's point for him.<br /><br />Joe, remember your Islamic teachings!<br /><br />"Creationists come in many denominations. I happen to be a Muslim who is not a follower of the Nation of Islam. I know of Hindu Creationists. Islam, Judaism, and Christiantity all share Abraham and they all share Genesis." - Joe Gallien aka John Paul.<br /> Rich Hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18037140349297065008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-81829956194816692482012-12-01T09:54:54.674-08:002012-12-01T09:54:54.674-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-13412132426974609412012-12-01T09:53:50.197-08:002012-12-01T09:53:50.197-08:00Joe G, so ashamed to be a YEC he has to lie about ...Joe G, so ashamed to be a YEC he has to lie about it.<br />Ghostriderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686873801972423841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-62517703686237797042012-12-01T09:50:43.944-08:002012-12-01T09:50:43.944-08:00oleg:
The latter is not an example. It is a hypoth...oleg:<br /><i>The latter is not an example. It is a hypothetical.</i><br /><br />No, it's a reality or else they wouldn't have included it in the definition. <br /><br /><i>But we have established something already.</i><br /><br />Yes, that you are a cry-baby who can't man-up and admit he was wrong and set off on a wild-goose chase of your making.<br />Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-42015922505735001072012-12-01T09:41:35.010-08:002012-12-01T09:41:35.010-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Ghostriderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686873801972423841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-51092982072574239492012-12-01T09:26:03.922-08:002012-12-01T09:26:03.922-08:00The latter is not an example. It is a hypothetical...The latter is not an example. It is a hypothetical. <br /><br />You don't qualify as an example because we need an example to establish a claim about you. That would be circular logic. <br /><br />But we have established something already. Joe G is a theist. Or at least he was in 2005. Yay!oleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11644793385433232819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-69586305401088417112012-12-01T09:23:08.724-08:002012-12-01T09:23:08.724-08:00BTW oleg:
Any theist that does not adhere to all ...BTW oleg:<br /><br /><b>Any theist that does not adhere to all of the other characteristics of religion, duh.</b><br /><br />Is an example<br />Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-28109039186255533652012-12-01T09:21:57.152-08:002012-12-01T09:21:57.152-08:00Any theist that does not adhere to all of the othe...<b>Any theist that does not adhere to all of the other characteristics of religion, duh.</b><br /><br />For example- me<br /><br />Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-31795498020925461592012-12-01T09:19:46.803-08:002012-12-01T09:19:46.803-08:00One example, Joe? :) One example, Joe? :) oleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11644793385433232819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-89499938099934736842012-12-01T09:17:15.081-08:002012-12-01T09:17:15.081-08:00As I said oleg, you are ignorant of religion. I tr...As I said oleg, you are ignorant of religion. I tried to help you but you ignored the reference because you really think that your willful ignorance trumps reality.Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-92127193378656602162012-12-01T09:15:45.212-08:002012-12-01T09:15:45.212-08:00Any theist that does not adhere to all of the othe...Any theist that does not adhere to all of the other characteristics of religion, duh.<br /><br />As I said you are a simpleton if you think that any one dictionary definition is the catch-all definition for religion. And it is shocking that someone who claims to be a scientist would cling to such simpleton definitions.Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-41999975096588595352012-12-01T09:15:40.718-08:002012-12-01T09:15:40.718-08:00natschuster November 29, 2012 6:05 PM
Wasn't...<i><b>natschuster</b> November 29, 2012 6:05 PM<br /><br />Wasn't eugenics based on natural selection which is part of evolution? Didn't Darwin himself write about eugenics?</i><br /><br />The concept of <i>natural</i> selection was derived from knowledge of <i>artificial</i> selection - of how humans had successfully bred other animals for specific purposes over hundreds of years. <br /><br />Shouldn't we blame eugenics on agriculture?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11311738457332907931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-86889171787588747392012-12-01T09:07:14.509-08:002012-12-01T09:07:14.509-08:00Give me an example of a non-religious theist. Give me an example of a non-religious theist. oleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11644793385433232819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-46525367441898709052012-12-01T08:53:02.785-08:002012-12-01T08:53:02.785-08:00oleg:
The widely accepted definition says that rel...oleg:<br /><i>The widely accepted definition says that religion usually involves God.</i><br /><br />That's false and I provided a reference that says it is false.<br /><br /><i>But I was not arguing the direct statement. Instead, I was arguing its converse (believers in One True God are religious).</i><br /><br />And I provided a reference that says that is false.<br /><br />Again just because you can be an ignorant cry-baby doesn't mean you have actually done something.<br /><br />The site I linked to is <a href="http://atheism.about.com/od/religiondefinition/p/WhatReligion.htm" rel="nofollow"><b>What is Religion?</b></a>.<br /><br />You can see why oleg ignored it-> it exposed his ignorance on the subject:<br /><br /><i><b>Belief in the supernatural, especially gods, is one of the most obvious characteristics of religion. It’s so common, in fact, that some people mistake mere theism for religion itself; yet that is incorrect. Theism can occur outside of religion and some religions are atheistic. Despite this, supernatural beliefs are a common and fundamental aspect to most religions, while the existence of supernatural beings is almost never stipulated in non-religious belief systems.</b></i><br /><br />See belief in a God does not make it a religion. And a religion does not require any Gods at all. And the article tells you why simplistic definitions just don't cut it. Oleg didn't grasp any of that and prattled on as if his ignorance trumps reality.<br /><br />So if a belief in a God doesn't make it a religion then the acceptance of the One True God doesn't make it a religion.Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.com