tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post4495279900216280102..comments2024-01-23T02:32:28.567-08:00Comments on Darwin's God: Evolution: A Course for EducatorsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-81969258889760269072013-05-16T08:11:52.545-07:002013-05-16T08:11:52.545-07:00gumbo of the kookoo agenda barfed up:
"CH, I...gumbo of the kookoo agenda barfed up:<br /><br />"CH, I suggest that evolutionary materialism zealots need to be held to answer the list of questions here."<br /><br />Well isn't that special. gordo mullings, the two-faced, lying, evangelical, fundy, dominionist, YEC zealot thinks that what he 'suggests' (actually demands) matters to anyone but himself. <br /><br />"(And since it looks like issues of Scopes and the like have come up, I suggest a read here on in context.)"<br /><br />gordo, you should seriously consider joining this century one of these days. <br /><br />"Given the presence of known slanderers.."<br /><br />Yeah, who let you and your fellow god pushing slanderers in here? <br /><br />"..., I speak just once..."<br /><br />If only. <br /><br />"...for record..."<br /><br />ROFLMAO! gordo thinks that everything he says is divinely carved into stone tablets that the whole world should, and does worship. What a pompous lunatic.<br /><br />"..., the onlooker is invited to understand that slanderers are just that and those that enable them are just that, cf. here."<br /><br />Yeah, arrington and cornelius should feel ashamed for harboring and enabling slanderers like you and your 'ilk', gordo. Oh wait, arrington and cornelius ARE your 'ilk'. <br /><br />"I further suggest that those who wish to follow New Atheist sophomoric slanders against the Judaeo-Christian tradition at the basis of our civilisation, would be wise to ponder the concerns and issues here on."<br /><br />Which "civilisation" is that, gordo? The one in Egypt, Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Scandinavia, Mongolia, India, China, Indonesia, Montserrat, the USA, North Korea, Turkey, Jamaica, Algeria, Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Gambia, Russia, Libya, Morocco, Niger, Pakistan,, Yemen, Sudan, Bosnia, or what? <br /><br />Hey gordo, I 'suggest' that you should get some extensive psychological treatment, and a backbone, ASAP.The whole truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219999357041824471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-39804004628878275822013-05-16T04:04:10.691-07:002013-05-16T04:04:10.691-07:00GEM of The Kairos InitiativeMay 15, 2013 at 4:11 A...<i><b>GEM of The Kairos Initiative</b>May 15, 2013 at 4:11 AM<br /><br />CH, I suggest that evolutionary materialism zealots need to be held to answer the list of questions here.</i><br /><br />As an evolutionary physicalist (the preferred name) I am happy to answer the questions. It will have to be here rather than at <i>Uncommon Descent</i>, though, as I am unable and, hence, now unwilling to post there. UD is somewhat less tolerant than CH.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11311738457332907931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-81983799746614749582013-05-15T20:08:20.138-07:002013-05-15T20:08:20.138-07:00DrHunter,
Thank you V, but it most certainly is no...<b>DrHunter,<br />Thank you V, but it most certainly is not that I'm any better than anybody else</b><br /><br /><b>KF,<br />Given the presence of known slanderers, I speak just once for record, the onlooker is invited to understand that slanderers are just that and those that enable them are just that</b><br /><br /><br />And thanks for making my exact point,KF.velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01825529912160289226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-51505625995453523162013-05-15T06:26:05.027-07:002013-05-15T06:26:05.027-07:00If Gordon Elliott Mullings of Manjack Heights Mont...If Gordon Elliott Mullings of Manjack Heights Montserrat wasn't such a cowardly hypocrite he wouldn't spend all his time hiding at UD. He's go to places like TheSkepticalZone where Dr. Liddle has repeatedly invited him to defend his ID nonsense. <br /><br />But Gordon Elliott Mullings of Manjack Heights Montserrat is such a cowardly hypocrite, so all he does is hide at UD with his potty-mouthed new best friend Joe Gallien.Ghostriderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686873801972423841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-73111831861911131312013-05-15T05:38:23.905-07:002013-05-15T05:38:23.905-07:00Shorter:
I abhor slander unless I am doing itShorter:<br /><br />I abhor slander unless I am doing itvelikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01825529912160289226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-82583721639580318562013-05-15T04:11:01.312-07:002013-05-15T04:11:01.312-07:00CH, I suggest that evolutionary materialism zealot...CH, I suggest that evolutionary materialism zealots need to be held to answer the list of questions <a href="http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/evolution-a-course-for-educators/#comment-454713" rel="nofollow">here</a>. (And since it looks like issues of Scopes and the like have come up, I suggest a read <a href="http://iose-gen.blogspot.com/2010/06/origins-science-in-society.html#ks_tn_edu" rel="nofollow">here on</a> in context.) Given the presence of known slanderers, I speak just once for record, the onlooker is invited to understand that slanderers are just that and those that enable them are just that, cf. <a href="http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/the-issue-of-the-dark-triad-in-the-debates-over-design-the-danger-of-cossetting-an-asp-of-evolutionary-materialsm-driven-cold-manipulative-narcicissm-machiavellianism-and-sociopathy-from-alcibiad/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I further suggest that those who wish to follow New Atheist sophomoric slanders against the Judaeo-Christian tradition at the basis of our civilisation, would be wise to ponder the concerns and issues <a href="http://nicenesystheol.blogspot.com/2010/11/unit-9-sins-of-christendom.html#lews_rage" rel="nofollow">here on</a>. KFGEM of The Kairos Initiativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10622199013789009422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-54892085244013532242013-05-14T01:14:07.360-07:002013-05-14T01:14:07.360-07:00Hey tedford, is the "Civic Biology textbook u...Hey tedford, is the "Civic Biology textbook used by John Scopes" still in use today?<br /><br />How about the bible?<br /><br />Have you ever considered joining this century, or are you always going to believe in and promote monstrous fairy tales that were thought up by ignorant, dominionist barbarians a long time ago?The whole truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219999357041824471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-50686304361255562652013-05-13T21:09:18.138-07:002013-05-13T21:09:18.138-07:00creo-corny said:
"It is that I could care le...creo-corny said:<br /><br />"It is that I could care less if evolution is true or not."<br /><br />In other words, you do care, a lot. In fact, you are completely obsessed with whether "evolution is true or not", and you will resort to any lie, distortion, red herring, strawman, quote mine, false accusation, malicious demonization, and cowardly evasion to try to convince yourself and others that evolution and the theory of evolution are evil blasphemy, and not "true".<br /><br /> <br /><br />The whole truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219999357041824471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-4023522905506013782013-05-13T10:20:19.052-07:002013-05-13T10:20:19.052-07:00Neal,
Vel, they probably misinterpreted the Bible ...<b>Neal,<br />Vel, they probably misinterpreted the Bible as poorly as the atheists on this blog do. So, atheists here have something in common with the old time Southern Slave owners.</b><br /><br />Nicely done<br /><br />Remember this law is still on the books as of 2011. It is a shame that the objective guide to morality is so subject to interpretation. <br /><br /><b>The part of the bible where Moses married an Ethopian woman was conveniently forgotten.</b><br /><br />Now you sound like you have something in common with atheists, accusing the faithful of selective reading.Been a long time,where exactly does Jesus clearly condemn slavery?velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01825529912160289226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-78793393346543774922013-05-13T10:13:50.749-07:002013-05-13T10:13:50.749-07:00Tedford the Slow
Vel, they probably misinterprete...<i>Tedford the Slow<br /><br />Vel, they probably misinterpreted the Bible as poorly as the atheists on this blog do. So, atheists here have something in common with the old time Southern Slave owners.</i><br /><br />Tedford the Slow's "logic":<br /><br />If someone misuses the Bible to support their bigotry or other evils, then their interpretation is wrong and the Bible is still true.<br /><br />If someone misuses the Theory of Evolution to support their bigotry or other evils, then their interpretation is correct and ToE is falsified.<br /><br />Tedford isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.Ghostriderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686873801972423841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-71428645241971248462013-05-13T09:29:37.251-07:002013-05-13T09:29:37.251-07:00Vel, they probably misinterpreted the Bible as poo...Vel, they probably misinterpreted the Bible as poorly as the atheists on this blog do. So, atheists here have something in common with the old time Southern Slave owners.<br /><br />The part of the bible where Moses married an Ethopian woman was conveniently forgotten. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-85880657101586569052013-05-13T08:15:24.922-07:002013-05-13T08:15:24.922-07:00Neal,
Humanity will not allow this, but we do have...<b>Neal,<br />Humanity will not allow this, but we do have the remedy of separating the sexes in asylums or other places and in various ways preventing intermarriage and the possibilities of perpetuating such a low and degenerate race</b><br /><br />Present day<br />Constitution of Tennessee<br />Article XI: Miscellaneous Provisions: Section 14<br /><br />The intermarriage of white persons with negroes, mulattoes, or persons of mixed blood, descended from a negro to the third generation inclusive of their living together as man and wife in this State is prohibited. The legislature shall enforce this section by appropriate legislation.<br /><br />Apparently it was only the denial of Divine Creation in the Bible of man they disagreed with. After all going to war the retain the privilege of keeping the institution of slavery,hardly indicates a progressive view of racial equality. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01825529912160289226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-32876496459993846212013-05-13T07:45:27.366-07:002013-05-13T07:45:27.366-07:00Quote of the day:
“Elisha left Jericho to go to B...Quote of the day:<br /><br />“Elisha left Jericho to go to Bethel and on the way some boys came out of a town and made fun of him. "Get out of here, Baldy!" they shouted.Elisha turned around, glared at them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two she-bears came out of the woods and tore forty-two of the boys to pieces.”<br /><br />Where was this mass murder of children found:<br /><br />A) Pol Pot Tyrant's Handbook<br /><br />B) Mötley Crüe lyrics<br /><br />C) "Holy" Bible.Ghostriderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686873801972423841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-19379243871576046652013-05-13T07:22:19.591-07:002013-05-13T07:22:19.591-07:00DrHunter,
The ACLU has a long-held agenda of enfor...<b>DrHunter,<br />The ACLU has a long-held agenda of enforcing evolution's religious dogma and lies on the rest of us.</b><br /><br />And defends freedom of religion<br />The ACLU of Pennsylvania (2012) filed a brief in support of a fifth grader's right to share her religious beliefs with classmates by distributing invitations to a Christmas party hosted by a local church.<br /><br />The ACLU of Virginia (2012) represented four Sikh men challenging a law that allows ordained ministers to receive a license to perform marriages without posting a bond, but requires representatives of religions that have no ordained ministers, like Sikhism, to post a $500 bond.<br /><br />The ACLU of Louisiana (2012) filed a lawsuit on behalf of a member of Raven Ministries, a Christian congregation that regularly preaches the Gospel in New Orleans's French Quarter. The lawsuit challenged a city ordinance that restricts religious speech on Bourbon Street after dark. As a result of the lawsuit, a federal judge issued an order that blocks enforcement of the law.<br /><br />Are you saying defending Christians the right to express their views is Unamerican? I am shocked.<br /><br /><b> They initiated Dayton/1925</b><br /><br />Where they argued against this<br /> "That it shall be unlawful for any teacher in any of the Universities, Normals and all other public schools of the State which are supported in whole or in part by the public school funds of the State, to teach any theory that denies the Story of the Divine Creation of man as taught in the Bible, and to teach instead that man has descended from a lower order of animals."<br /><br />Even with your tortured view of the TOE, it would be hard to argue that this law was not an establishment of particular religion.<br />So in your view it is Unamerican to defend the Bill of Rights?<br /><br /><br /><br /> <b> and were the key legal force behind the Dover/1995 legal victory. Judge Jones' decision, which was essentially a copy/paste of the ACLU's brief</b><br /><br />I would expect the ACLU might say, the Constitution was the main force. <br /><br />velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01825529912160289226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-83480619833988257262013-05-13T07:04:27.504-07:002013-05-13T07:04:27.504-07:00Quote of the Day:
"If such people were lower...Quote of the Day:<br /><br />"If such people were lower animals, we would probably kill them off to prevent them from spreading. Humanity will not allow this, but we do have the remedy of separating the sexes in asylums or other places and in various ways preventing intermarriage and the possibilities of perpetuating such a low and degenerate race. Remedies of this sort have been tried successfully in Europe and are now meeting with some success in this country."<br /><br />Where was this quote found:<br /><br />A) Civic Biology textbook used by John Scopes<br /><br />B) Mein Kampf written by A Hitler<br /><br />C) Al-Qaeda training manual<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-17079328022271355182013-05-13T05:19:50.995-07:002013-05-13T05:19:50.995-07:00TJ: Historical revision can be very dangerous.
It...TJ: Historical revision can be very dangerous.<br /><br />It certainly can. So it's always worth going back to the original text:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pgen.1000297" rel="nofollow">link</a>Elizabeth Liddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02465414316063910821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-55764082080429049112013-05-13T05:05:26.754-07:002013-05-13T05:05:26.754-07:00Unknown: "I've seen Inherit the Wind"...Unknown: <i>"I've seen Inherit the Wind" supplies all of the necessary context. That statement would not be there if Hunter's interpretation of the interview is wrong.<br /><br />It's exactly the same as a historian saying, "I am informed about the Kennedy assassination. I've seen the movie JFK." The second sentence provides the context, which is that that particular judge is both uninformed, and unethically, unprofessionally, embarrassingly so.</i><br /><br />Except that Judge Jones was not saying "I am informed about" anything. His answer to the question he was asked was "no" not "yes", and the question was: <br /><br /><i>Gitschier: Tell us about your education for this case. Although you hadn't heard of ID, you likely had heard of creationism or creation science. Had this been a field that you followed at all?<br /><br />Jones: No, not other than popular culture. When I went to law school in the late '70s, I followed the progression of cases that we talked about before. I understood the general theme. I'd seen Inherit the Wind.</i><br /><br />Here is how the interview went subsequently:<br /><br /><i>Gitschier: So now it's on your docket, and you must have been curious. Did you Google intelligent design?<br /><br />Jones: No. I got what I needed in the context of the case. And it was the monster on my docket.<br /><br />To your question: I think laypersons apprehend that when we get a case, it's incumbent upon us to go into an intensive study mode to learn everything about it. Actually that is the wrong thing to do. The analogy is that when I have a jury trial in front of me, I always instruct jurors, particularly in this day and age when you can Google anything, not to do that. I don't want you to do any research or investigation. Everything you need to decide this case you'll get within the corners of this courtroom.<br /><br />So it is with me. And I knew that by the time the case went to trial and during the trial, that I would get expert reports.<br /><br />Gitschier: From whom?<br /><br />Jones: Everybody. The way expert opinion works is that I get a summary of their testimony first, and that I can read in advance. So I have a flavor for it. So then the question is, why also have them testify? That is because they are subject to cross examination and everything they say may not hold up that well. And, as it turned out, some of it didn't during the trial.<br /><br />In any event, I was taken to school. From the earliest point in the litigation to the time the briefs were filed, it was the equivalent of a degree in this area. Folks who disagree with my opinion will tell you I never got it right, but I'm confident that I did.<br /><br />Go back to your last question. It's very critical. I have to decide cases on the facts that are before me. I can't decide a case based on my own opinion, gleaned from outside the courtroom. That's why I don't engage in my own independent investigation. If you look at other systems in other countries throughout the world, they do that. But in our system of justice in the US, we let the parties try their cases and we find the facts from what is presented to us in the courtroom. And the law, presumably we know and we apply the law. That's our job. But the facts that we apply the law to are covered at that time.</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pgen.1000297" rel="nofollow">Link</a><br /><br />Elizabeth Liddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02465414316063910821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-35913638291734513152013-05-13T04:44:29.873-07:002013-05-13T04:44:29.873-07:00And thank you for making my exact point TJ.And thank you for making my exact point TJ.velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01825529912160289226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-23160948962120467072013-05-13T04:41:59.530-07:002013-05-13T04:41:59.530-07:00DrHunter,
It is that I could care less if evolutio...<b>DrHunter,<br />It is that I could care less if evolution is true or not. I'd be delighted to argue for it, but religious lies need to be called out</b><br /><br />Spoken like a true believer,which kind of evolution are we talking about now? <br /><br /><b>BA,<br />And thank you Thorton for your tireless work helping Dr. Hunter expose the blatant lies of the religious propagandist pushing an anti-science agenda.</b><br /><br />You and DrHunter need no help exposing religious propagandists pushing a anti science agenda, but I am sure Thorton appreciates the call out. Let's hope he wasn't drinking coffee when he read it. velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01825529912160289226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-43610774448864274592013-05-13T04:23:57.630-07:002013-05-13T04:23:57.630-07:00Neither did Miller. His statement that a pseudogen...Neither did Miller. His statement that a pseudogene did not work was factually correct as he was referring to the lack of the protein-coding function. <br /><br />You, on the other hand, tried to twist Miller's statement into something else and that was disingenuous. Good thing you didn't do that in front of a federal judge.oleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11644793385433232819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-27530818572852555722013-05-13T04:18:26.800-07:002013-05-13T04:18:26.800-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.oleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11644793385433232819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-9822279647658838992013-05-13T04:16:18.378-07:002013-05-13T04:16:18.378-07:00"I'd seen Inherit the Wind".
What a..."I'd seen Inherit the Wind".<br /><br />What an embarrassing admission!<br /><br />That would be hilarious except for the fact that he was serious!<br /><br />Unfortunately, their deceit paid a handsome dividend in this case. Historical revision can be very dangerous.tokyojimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03918507161827373905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-46484277243399952692013-05-13T02:39:34.221-07:002013-05-13T02:39:34.221-07:00And thank you Thorton for your tireless work helpi...And thank you Thorton for your tireless work helping Dr. Hunter expose the blatant lies of the religious propagandist pushing an anti-science agenda. bornagain77https://www.blogger.com/profile/16666666037080692370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-31271885952202482262013-05-12T23:19:17.359-07:002013-05-12T23:19:17.359-07:00oleg:
The identification of a pseudogene as a gen...oleg:<br /><br /><i>The identification of a pseudogene as a gene broken by mutations is part of a scientific theory. What is so hard to understand about that? Did you not publish papers where you relied on theory? I believe you did.</i><br /><br />Yes, but I didn't misrepresent the theory as fact, to a federal judge or anyone else.Cornelius Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283098537456505707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-46841039016963773182013-05-12T22:47:25.269-07:002013-05-12T22:47:25.269-07:00"I've seen Inherit the Wind" supplie..."I've seen Inherit the Wind" supplies all of the necessary context. That statement would not be there if Hunter's interpretation of the interview is wrong.<br /><br />It's exactly the same as a historian saying, "I am informed about the Kennedy assassination. I've seen the movie JFK." The second sentence provides the context, which is that that particular judge is both uninformed, and unethically, unprofessionally, embarrassingly so.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04109550320427185958noreply@blogger.com