tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post4306653606896817935..comments2024-01-23T02:32:28.567-08:00Comments on Darwin's God: About That RNA World HypothesisUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-21830967185537951042018-05-18T02:09:33.711-07:002018-05-18T02:09:33.711-07:00This made revising for an evolutionary genetics ex...This made revising for an evolutionary genetics exam more interesting. Hint: don't get butthurt about thingsdev1425https://www.blogger.com/profile/12701456858150466185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-73148993829767447912018-05-18T02:08:21.355-07:002018-05-18T02:08:21.355-07:00This was a fun comment thread to read. Thanks guys...This was a fun comment thread to read. Thanks guys.<br />-Makes studying for my evolutionary genetics exam a bit more interesting.dev1425https://www.blogger.com/profile/12701456858150466185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-34086227850605063462018-04-15T02:29:04.788-07:002018-04-15T02:29:04.788-07:00Lord, but you guys are easily diverted. The point ...Lord, but you guys are easily diverted. The point of the post was that RNA had hit another roadblock. Shakespeare comes in with a giggle about God and the post is buried in a sludge of irrelevancy.Belfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15231804835161458747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-86693722822370664002018-01-29T11:21:23.741-08:002018-01-29T11:21:23.741-08:00What do you have against science, truth, logic and...What do you have against science, truth, logic and reasoning? Clearly you have issues with all of those.Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-31811761663717860562018-01-29T09:33:38.049-08:002018-01-29T09:33:38.049-08:00Joke: “Tat is also total BS...”
What do you have ...Joke: “<i>Tat is also total BS...”</i><br /><br />What do you have against lace making?William Spearshakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09354659259971103985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-30110171481238556502018-01-29T07:45:09.577-08:002018-01-29T07:45:09.577-08:00"But it sure beats sitting back in our pews s...<i>"But it sure beats sitting back in our pews saying ‘god did it’." </i><br /><br />That is a lie. It cannot be an opinion as it isn't based on anything but willie's willful ignorance. And it was meant to deceive.<br /><br /><i>Sadly, most of the ID argument involves gaps in our knowledge, </i><br /><br />Tat is also total BS as the design inference is based on our knowledge of cause and effect relationships. It is evolutionism that relies on our ignorance as evidenced by the fact no one knows how many biologic structures and systems evolved or could have evolved.Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-57090170841489946912018-01-29T06:48:09.931-08:002018-01-29T06:48:09.931-08:00And haven’t been able to provide any examples of m...<i>And haven’t been able to provide any examples of me lying. </i><br /><br />You did is this thread. Either that or you are willfully ignorant.<br /><br /><i>The one thing that I agree with Nic on is his assessment of your ability (or lack there of) to be able to interact with others on a social level. </i><br /><br />And you are both ignorant because reality refutes that asinine and unsupportable claim.<br /><br /><i>I don’t think that you are capable of doing this, even with people who share your world view. </i><br /><br />And yet I do that all of the time. You lose, loser.<br /><br /><i>You are not to be scorned, only pitied. </i><br /><br />Sez the chump who has to lie and bluff its way through any discussion on science. You are to be scorned and pitied. And I will continue to expose you are the lair and cowardly bluffer that you are<br />Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-74697708155436793972018-01-28T18:53:10.747-08:002018-01-28T18:53:10.747-08:00Joke: “It isn't my fault that you cannot pay a...Joke: “<i>It isn't my fault that you cannot pay attention. I never said willie lies every time it posts.“</i><br /><br />And haven’t been able to provide <b>any</b> examples of me lying. <br /><br />“<i>It sure does continue to spew the same ole oft-refuted nonsense. Refuted by more than just me-“</i><br /><br />“Refuted” by who else? Mapou? Gordon (Kairosfocus) Mullings? Barry Arrington? William J. Murray? Sorry, but calling someone a dirtworshipper, or a pathetic snivelling coward, or a Nazi, or a nihilist, is not a refutation. It is just the childish rants of people who can’t support their own arguments. <br /><br />Nic and I disagree with each other on some pretty fundamental issues. But we have something that neither you nor Barry, Mullings or Mapou will ever have. The maturity to respect the honesty of each other’s opinions even if we disagree with them. <br /><br />The one thing that I agree with Nic on is his assessment of your ability (or lack there of) to be able to interact with others on a social level. I am sure that Nic and I, even though we have very different world views, could sit down for a couple drinks and enjoy each other’s company. I don’t think that you are capable of doing this, even with people who share your world view. You are not to be scorned, only pitied. William Spearshakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09354659259971103985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-8938084042603085302018-01-28T17:50:16.295-08:002018-01-28T17:50:16.295-08:00No, Joe, you've provided nothing but assertion...<i>No, Joe, you've provided nothing but assertions William is lying, you have provided zero examples, no proof whatsoever.</i><br /><br />It isn't my fault that you cannot pay attention. I never said willie lies every time it posts.<br /><br />But you are correct, perhaps willie is just willfully ignorant and isn't technically lying. It sure does continue to spew the same ole oft-refuted nonsense. Refuted by more than just me- and when I say refuted I mean the case was made that willie doesn't know squat about ID, evolution and science.<br /><br /><i>It was not an attempt at an ad hominem</i><br /><br />It was a lame attempt at an ad hominem, at that.<br /><br />Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-51792858506534487862018-01-28T14:16:55.572-08:002018-01-28T14:16:55.572-08:00Kevin Franck: “Are you an evolutionist because of...Kevin Franck: “Are you an evolutionist because of blind faith ? Because so far in this discussion all I see is blind unquestioning faith to a Guru when it comes to OoL experiments”<br /><br />No, I am not an evolutionist. I just like to ask questions. Blame Socrates.TrevorDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650660580820963962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-53059383029511950492018-01-28T13:50:02.922-08:002018-01-28T13:50:02.922-08:00Joe G,
"Just most of its posts. It isn't...Joe G,<br /><br />"Just most of its posts. It isn't my fault that you can't pay attention."<br /><br />No, Joe, you've provided nothing but assertions William is lying, you have provided zero examples, no proof whatsoever. The logic still remains, it is you who is lying. <br /><br />"Sez the person who can only offer a juvenile attempt at an ad hominem."<br /><br />It was not an attempt at an ad hominem, it was simply a statement of fact. When it comes to making comments to you it would actually be hard to distinguish between an ad hominem and a statement of fact as what applied to most people could qualify as an ad hominem would, in your case, simply be the truth.Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-3359339957835164202018-01-28T09:58:59.992-08:002018-01-28T09:58:59.992-08:00From this series of comments I can only come to on...<i>From this series of comments I can only come to one conclusion, you have nothing to support your claim William is purposely being deceitful and dishonest in expressing his opinion.</i><br /><br />Just most of its posts. It isn't my fault that you can't pay attention.<br /><br /><i>It is nothing more than a juvenile attempt at an ad hominem and a clear indication you have nothing to offer in the way of mature debate. </i><br /><br />Sez the person who can only offer a juvenile attempt at an ad hominem. <br />Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-23527973980151902312018-01-28T09:44:22.003-08:002018-01-28T09:44:22.003-08:00I know how designers do things simple or complex, ...I know how designers do things simple or complex, all I have to do is watch and read an OoL experimenter do his job. The only thing that makes it evolutionary is the mere act of fabricating a phony narrative and call it "Evolution" then get enough consensus on board to agree with the mythical findings and voila, evolution is fact. Anyone who disagrees with the fabled storytelling is considered a heretic and labled anti-science. Must be nice and convenient when your church runs things.Chaparral Earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00618976919417073750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-42811527367029051442018-01-28T09:39:54.528-08:002018-01-28T09:39:54.528-08:00Anonymous Bill: "But at least they are doing ...Anonymous Bill: "But at least they are doing some experiments."<br />===<br /><br />The only experiments they've done are ID experiments (experiments which require intelligence) which up to date have done nothing but tell us what substance life is made out of. But we already know that answer. That's hardly Oxford material, it's more on an elementary school level. Even grade school kids know things are made of dust elements.<br /><br />Anonymous Bill: "What experiments have the thousands of ID scientists done wrt OoL?"<br />===<br /><br />Evolutionists are already doing them as I've stated. All an ID proponent has to do is sit back and watch. But it does takes an intelligence to actually design things as opposed to sitting and watching a sterile terrarium with dirt, chemicals and intermittent electric spark which as even the scientists know but what admit will never produce anything. See, that's not hard to understand, because irrespective of worldview, everyone knows how all things get done and are made. Whether they admit that in front of their peers or not. Must be the reason for all this anonymity all over the Net.Chaparral Earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00618976919417073750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-48751600555064298732018-01-28T07:15:55.495-08:002018-01-28T07:15:55.495-08:00KF, no, I said that I didn’t know how life origin...KF, no, I said that I didn’t know how life originated. You said that you didn’t know how the designer did it. Those are clearly two different statements. Mine does not preclude either a designer or a natural cause. Yours precludes a natural cause. William Spearshakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09354659259971103985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-28411684006937170672018-01-28T07:10:42.434-08:002018-01-28T07:10:42.434-08:00Joe G,
"I should have known better than to t...Joe G,<br /><br />"I should have known better than to think you would have a grasp of reality."<br /><br />From this series of comments I can only come to one conclusion, you have nothing to support your claim William is purposely being deceitful and dishonest in expressing his opinion. Logical result, Joe, you're the one lying.<br /><br />As for me and my grasp on reality, you can say what you wish it matters not to me. It is nothing more than a juvenile attempt at an ad hominem and a clear indication you have nothing to offer in the way of mature debate. Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-91226592842098701692018-01-28T07:10:33.669-08:002018-01-28T07:10:33.669-08:00KF: “Because so far in this discussion all I see i...KF: “<i>Because so far in this discussion all I see is blind unquestioning faith to a Guru when it comes to OoL experiments.”</i><br /><br />But at least they are doing some experiments. What experiments have the thousands of ID scientists done wrt OoL?William Spearshakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09354659259971103985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-25543349582662019882018-01-27T22:46:09.690-08:002018-01-27T22:46:09.690-08:00Tim Carole: "Or are they supporters of ID bec...Tim Carole: "Or are they supporters of ID because their faith has led them to ID?"<br />===<br /><br />Are you an evolutionist because of blind faith ? Because so far in this discussion all I see is blind unquestioning faith to a Guru when it comes to OoL experimentsChaparral Earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00618976919417073750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-64273143175783852672018-01-27T22:43:52.615-08:002018-01-27T22:43:52.615-08:00Anonymous Bill: "I have no idea how life orig...Anonymous Bill: "I have no idea how life originated. Do you?"<br />===<br /><br />You clearly don't read everything when a discussion takes place. I wrote:<br /><br />"I have no clue as to how the designer accomplished anything regarding life's creation, but then I'm in good company because every human being who has ever lived and living now has no clue as to how this was done."<br /><br />This is what hapens when your only goal is mockery. Chaparral Earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00618976919417073750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-81250346422147120522018-01-27T17:46:13.088-08:002018-01-27T17:46:13.088-08:00Nic, I am not going to go back and reference every...Nic, I am not going to go back and reference every instance of willie and its socks being corrected only to have it say the same thing later. I am not going to go back to every time willie posted a bluff and was called on it.<br /><br />And no, I don't have good relations with people who lie and bluff their way through discussions. But I have great relations with all other people.<br /><br />But I do apologize. I should have known better than to think you would have a grasp of reality. Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-43851699784541173032018-01-27T14:32:11.222-08:002018-01-27T14:32:11.222-08:00Joe G,
"And seeing that willie keeps saying ...Joe G,<br /><br />"And seeing that willie keeps saying the things that have been refuted to his face then yes, he is lying as his intent is to deceive."<br /><br />"That is the proof, Nic. And that you didn't provide the whole quote you quote-mined."<br /><br />That's not proof Joe, it is nothing more than your opinion. Do you really not understand the difference between credible evidence and your simple opinion? I'm beginning to believe so.<br /><br />I was not providing a quote in support of my position, I was simply providing a reference so you would know to what comment I was responding.<br /><br />I bet you have never had good relations with others at any time in your life. I disagree with William, I think you are bitter. <br /><br />Take care and seek some help with your attitude.Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-3078033917831102802018-01-27T12:55:54.049-08:002018-01-27T12:55:54.049-08:00I have no idea how life originated. Do you?
You d...<i>I have no idea how life originated. Do you?</i><br /><br />You don't have any idea how the diversity of life arose, either. You don't have any idea how vision systems evolved. You don't have any idea how protein machines evolved. The list is near endless and yet you are OK with evolution by means of blind and mindless processes being pushed on unsuspecting school kids.<br /><br />Shameful, really.Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-16372066015453571952018-01-27T12:53:05.593-08:002018-01-27T12:53:05.593-08:00And seeing that willie keeps saying the things tha...<b>And seeing that willie keeps saying the things that have been refuted to his face then yes, he is lying as his intent is to deceive.</b><br /><br />That is the proof, Nic. And that you didn't provide the whole quote you quote-mined.<br /><br />That said every time willie is asked to present support for his position it always posts stuff that doesn't support evolution by means of blind and mindless processes and it then acts as if it does. That would be bluffing and it always happens.<br /><br />Just because you cannot recognize the lies and the bluffs doesn't mean squat to me, Nic. They are there for all objective people to see.Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-25148998455925619202018-01-27T09:28:58.300-08:002018-01-27T09:28:58.300-08:00Joe G,
"It isn't my opinion. Willie lies...Joe G,<br /><br />"It isn't my opinion. Willie lies and it has been proven that willie lies."<br /><br />Do you have a reading comprehension problem as well. I explicitly asked you to provide proof William lies. You did not do so, you only asserted he lies which is what you have done once again. You say there is proof he is lying, if that is so provide it.<br /><br />"And Nic, your quote-mine is also duly noted."<br /><br />And that would be found where?Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-43880269025527280172018-01-27T09:28:33.278-08:002018-01-27T09:28:33.278-08:00KF: ”Again, without the mockery, I really want to ...KF: <i>”Again, without the mockery, I really want to know how any kind of conscious intelligence was unnecessary in creating life, because that's not my worldview, that's your's.”</i><br /><br />That’s not my world view. I have no idea how life originated. Do you?William Spearshakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09354659259971103985noreply@blogger.com