tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post3310639660309938989..comments2024-01-23T02:32:28.567-08:00Comments on Darwin's God: Of Turtles and the Closing of the Evolutionary MindUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-70016644388732299322012-05-31T08:36:27.535-07:002012-05-31T08:36:27.535-07:00Unless the definition is given.
Otherwise, yes. I ...Unless the definition is given.<br />Otherwise, yes. I concur, doctor.Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00216381429665486830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-55371249214098901312012-05-31T08:24:18.943-07:002012-05-31T08:24:18.943-07:00Very nice. Eastern wisdom, lot could be learned fr...Very nice. Eastern wisdom, lot could be learned from that. <br /><br />It’s probably wrong to say “it’s impossible to define”, better would be “it’s elusive”.Eugenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513772766225981430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-47227983004043391732012-05-31T07:53:31.093-07:002012-05-31T07:53:31.093-07:00To know that you do not know is the best. To not k...To know that you do not know is the best. To not know that you do not know is a defect. Now only by treating defect as defect can you be without defect. The Sage is without defect because he treats all defects as defects and so is without defect.Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00216381429665486830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-72249973941995378912012-05-31T07:44:24.336-07:002012-05-31T07:44:24.336-07:00It is impossible to define Tao.It is impossible to define Tao.Eugenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513772766225981430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-44605264186114453672012-05-30T19:50:51.123-07:002012-05-30T19:50:51.123-07:00The nature of man, a bad explanation is better tha...The nature of man, a bad explanation is better than none.velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-78154201496438063352012-05-30T16:51:17.586-07:002012-05-30T16:51:17.586-07:00Indeed. Purpose can be very elusive. It helps when...Indeed. Purpose can be very elusive. It helps when the designer states the purpose. Even that doesn't dissuade others from arbitrary assigning of pretense.Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00216381429665486830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-79779153546952862012012-05-30T16:19:07.476-07:002012-05-30T16:19:07.476-07:00A pity that in ID's case the Designer is unwil...A pity that in ID's case the Designer is unwilling to submit to direct inquiry.<br /><br />Even in dealing with known designers,purpose is elusive.velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-11530425856598796792012-05-30T10:50:40.965-07:002012-05-30T10:50:40.965-07:00As cars and cigars are wont to do. A designer may ...As cars and cigars are wont to do. A designer may be asked, "why did you use red?" The answer should be that red, in many of its contexts, serves a purpose. Most do not seek an understanding of the red or its contexts, but pursue how they may have done it differently. Still, the purpose remains.<br /><br /><br />re: scott<br />Ask a better question.Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00216381429665486830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-2949630284534629782012-05-30T08:41:57.309-07:002012-05-30T08:41:57.309-07:00Smith: Generally, the root need that drives the so...Smith: Generally, the root need that drives the solution.<br /><br />You do realize the need of a root is an parochial assumption, right?Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11193595678064010528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-39332919578646504862012-05-30T07:17:55.619-07:002012-05-30T07:17:55.619-07:00Many, but they still go the mechanic when their ca...Many, but they still go the mechanic when their car breaks. Is it God's will that the car should stay broken or God's will that it should be fixed? Or is a cigar just a cigar? Rendering unto Caesarvelikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-80358108352813445492012-05-30T04:53:15.782-07:002012-05-30T04:53:15.782-07:00Or the solution, for some.Or the solution, for some.Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00216381429665486830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-41646423978583092242012-05-29T16:28:45.525-07:002012-05-29T16:28:45.525-07:00With God all things are possible,that is the probl...With God all things are possible,that is the problem.velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-25910883241802534262012-05-29T12:40:16.988-07:002012-05-29T12:40:16.988-07:00Thorton:
Reusing preexisting components is consid...Thorton:<br /><br />Reusing preexisting components is considered good design practice. It's called modularity. The Designer of turtles was acting like a human good human designer.natschusterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13127240463824366637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-78438539535054239442012-05-29T08:26:21.682-07:002012-05-29T08:26:21.682-07:00That is indeed part of their task should they choo...That is indeed part of their task should they choose the pursuit. Though it is easier to describe than define. Defining declares the answer to "why," which is often out of everyone's reach.<br /><br />Many texts give an answer to the question. We are quick to question their validity though. Perhaps needfully so.Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00216381429665486830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-12486037878401413682012-05-29T07:51:53.646-07:002012-05-29T07:51:53.646-07:00True enough, in ID sense,is it possible to determi...True enough, in ID sense,is it possible to determine the need of a being who by definition has no needs.velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-91957430245357263142012-05-29T07:06:29.233-07:002012-05-29T07:06:29.233-07:00Generally, the root need that drives the solution....Generally, the root need that drives the solution.Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00216381429665486830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-5251152223625425752012-05-29T03:13:03.690-07:002012-05-29T03:13:03.690-07:00Savain:
Random mutations are random, right?
Are ...Savain:<br /><br /><i>Random mutations are random, right?</i><br /><br />Are you (and Hunter) forgetting that mutations which negatively affect fitness are filtered out by <i>natural selection</i>?<br /><br />For some examples of the evolution of noncoding UCEs, see the following paper:<br /><br />Positive and negative selection in murine ultraconserved noncoding elements.<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21478460<br /><br />Also, a PubMed search of "ultraconserved elements" yields recent papers, like the one quoted in Hunter's OP, that exploit UCEs in phylogenetic studies. They are turning out to be very useful.Pedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-72445879900047567202012-05-29T00:44:21.324-07:002012-05-29T00:44:21.324-07:00Yes, mutations are random...Yes, <i>mutations</i> are random...David Winterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09704684760112027351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-37675733107005584342012-05-28T20:58:37.788-07:002012-05-28T20:58:37.788-07:00Which aspect of design are you interested in?Which aspect of design are you interested in?velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-57013755252009452322012-05-28T20:51:00.945-07:002012-05-28T20:51:00.945-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-60090812223772226812012-05-28T20:39:47.148-07:002012-05-28T20:39:47.148-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-86008839077671688792012-05-28T18:28:56.557-07:002012-05-28T18:28:56.557-07:00Correct. Nobody else spoke to it either.Correct. Nobody else spoke to it either.Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00216381429665486830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-46066808717655406842012-05-28T16:59:56.372-07:002012-05-28T16:59:56.372-07:00The funny thing is, I do not recall you posting an...The funny thing is, I do not recall you posting any criticism of the background knowledge I posted <a href="http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2012/05/epigenetics-in-real-time-samie-jaffrey.html?showComment=1337893723794#c8865426744247004835" rel="nofollow">here</a> despite being encouraged several times to do so.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11193595678064010528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-78310276052237973432012-05-28T15:16:59.477-07:002012-05-28T15:16:59.477-07:00Uh, are you kidding me? UCEs show that certain gen...Uh, are you kidding me? UCEs show that certain genes/sequences did not change for hundreds of millions of years even though the theory of evolution predicted they should have. Random mutations are random, right?Rebel Sciencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762287159937757216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-34958215099007253452012-05-28T15:13:08.891-07:002012-05-28T15:13:08.891-07:00But saying that some random mutations and natural ...But saying that some random mutations and natural selection did it does? You are indeed as dense as you seem to be.Rebel Sciencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762287159937757216noreply@blogger.com