tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post2236134064377439827..comments2024-01-23T02:32:28.567-08:00Comments on Darwin's God: DNA Methylation in BacteriaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-86909974462084577962010-04-04T15:51:20.547-07:002010-04-04T15:51:20.547-07:00Evolution isn't a theory. There might be theor...Evolution isn't a theory. There might be theories of evolution, but they are certainly not what evolution is.<br /><br />Evolution is not a uni-linear account, or any account for that matter, of species history. Evolution is something that occur to some thing(s) over time, namely development. Natural selection is one way of accounting for why that change happens, there has been other accounts before and after Charles Darwin.<br /><br />Maybe the reason to why 'evolutionists' have put forth similar claims about evolution, is that they study evolution, and know that it isn't an idea any more than fire is an idea. There surely is ideas and theories about fire, and how to make one, but it certainly IS none of those. <br /><br />Why would it be absurd for some people to take an interest in patterns that to them seem apparent, being it religion or otherwise?<br /><br />// Best wishes.<br /><br />Per Guterstam ChristofferssonPerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09134730923262894781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-64930083662984206202010-04-04T09:09:23.048-07:002010-04-04T09:09:23.048-07:00More information
Sequence A Decimal:
065640389793...More information<br /><br />Sequence A Decimal:<br />06564038979339044462 76538109087913057577 74532<br /><br />Sequence A Binary:<br />000000101101100011000001001101010110010000111010100100100011001101110<br />001000010011000101101111111001011001011111101001001111001110100101001<br />010010001100100100<br /><br />Sequence A Octal:<br />00554301152620724443156 10230557713137511716451 221444<br /><br />Sequence A Hexadecimal:<br />05B1826AC8752466E 4262DFCB2FD279D29 12324<br /><br /><br />Sequence B Decimal:<br />06795853234041212685 12981157821815303297 59049<br /><br />Sequence B Binary:<br />0101111001001111101110001000001010101000101101110100111100001101<br />1011010000100110010101100100001100000110100101011010110010000001<br />1110011010101001<br /><br />Sequence B Octal:<br />0571175610125055647415 1320462544140645326201 163251<br /><br />Sequence B Hexadecimal:<br />5E4FB882A8B74F0D B42656430695AC81 E6A9Thought Provokerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08288695859490482820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-66187363887701932462010-04-04T08:05:09.073-07:002010-04-04T08:05:09.073-07:00As promised, here is another hint with leading zer...As promised, here is another hint with leading zero and spaces added.<br /><br />New Sequence A:<br />06564038979339044462 76538109087913057577 74532<br /><br />New Sequence B:<br />06795853234041212685 12981157821815303297 59049Thought Provokerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08288695859490482820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-76240561709278616952010-04-04T07:58:04.680-07:002010-04-04T07:58:04.680-07:00Zachriel:
There's a pattern emerging.
CH: T...Zachriel:<br /><br /><strong><i>There's a pattern emerging. <br /><br />CH: This biological process is very complex.<br />CH: Therefore, it's a massive problem for evolution. <br />CH: Therefore, religion drives science.</i></strong><br /><br />This is so true and concisely stated. Dr Hunter, you are not making much impression with this fallacious non-sequitur, nor does it improve with repetition.Alan Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-54159748471965580492010-04-03T19:15:52.292-07:002010-04-03T19:15:52.292-07:00Zachriel: We know that evolutionary processes can ...<b>Zachriel</b>: <i>We know that evolutionary processes can generate complexity...</i><br /><br /><b>Doublee</b>: <i>How, exactly, do scientists know that?</i><br /><br />Because evolutionary processes are a mathematical class that can be studied. They are quite capable of exploring environments and problem-spaces that exhibit the kinds of order we see in nature. We can also directly observe adaptive evolution in nature. <br /><br /><b>Doublee</b>: <i>I don't think there would be all these blogs debating the theory of evolution if that were true.</i><br /><br />The argument regarding design is not constrained by evidence. ID is a social and political movement, not a scientific program.Zachrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11268229653808829377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-30129407050532840152010-04-03T15:37:24.782-07:002010-04-03T15:37:24.782-07:00Unfortunately, I have to make a correction. I wor...Unfortunately, I have to make a correction. I worked the problem out as if I didn't know the answer, and I found an oops. My mistake will provide a hint. I need to update 14 digits. I am updating both. I used Random.org to update the random sequence.<br /><br />New Sequence A:<br />65640389793390444627653810908791305757774532<br /><br />New Sequence B:<br />67958532340412126851298115782181530329759049Thought Provokerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08288695859490482820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-46348504610403624652010-04-03T12:52:47.126-07:002010-04-03T12:52:47.126-07:00I just posted this on After the Bar Closes. It ha...I just posted this on After the Bar Closes. It has been suggested they are better at determining CSI than ID Proponents. I have also posted this on Telic Thoughts.<br /><br />Here are two number sequences one contains "Complex Specified Information" the other was generated from random.org. I even used random.org to choose the order of presentation. I tried not to bias this with any CSI detection I knew about, either for or against. However, it could be argued I purposely avoided biasing the use of Benford's Law (i.e. Lewis). There is an implied "0" at the start of both sequences.<br /><br />Sequence A:<br />65640787712341033747653810908791305757774532<br /><br />Sequence B:<br />67958708262272571011298115782181530329759049<br /><br />Tomorrow Morning I will give a clue by separating groups of numbers. Tomorrow evening I will give the answer.<br /><br />If you want to keep score, 2 points for guessing right this evening. 1 point for guessing right after the clue. Those that are bold enough can get 3 points. It is permissable to guess one way first and a different way second. Therefore, there is no reason not to guess early.Thought Provokerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08288695859490482820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-42647884138960979552010-04-03T11:27:41.937-07:002010-04-03T11:27:41.937-07:00Zachriel:
We know that evolutionary processes can ...<b>Zachriel:</b><br /><i>We know that evolutionary processes can generate complexity...</i><br /><br />How, exactly, do scientists <i>know</i> that?<br /><br />I don't think there would be all these blogs debating the theory of evolution if that were true.Doubleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09894977171356099262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-35056745454967325752010-04-03T11:25:57.799-07:002010-04-03T11:25:57.799-07:00Zach:
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That's hardly what any fair readi...Zach:<br /><br />=====<br />That's hardly what any fair reading of Per's statement would entail. Biological evolution refers to descent with modification, that is, change in the heritable traits of populations over time. The Theory of Evolution includes many related claims and observations, including descent with modification, natural variation, natural selection and Common Descent.<br />=====<br /><br />I know this is probably hard to believe, but evolutionists commonly do, in fact, use the very argument, quite literally, that Per is using. Perhaps in this case Per actually was using shorthand, and meant what you are saying, but that is not typical.Cornelius Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283098537456505707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-2763980043525938622010-04-03T06:07:32.559-07:002010-04-03T06:07:32.559-07:00Per: ... or put in biological terms: the change of...<b>Per</b>: <i>... or put in biological terms: the change of organic structures over time.</i><br /><br /><b>Cornelius Hunter</b>: <i>False. On that definition even divine creation falls under evolution.</i><br /><br />Genesis 2:22<br /><i>And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. </i><br /><br />That's hardly what any fair reading of Per's statement would entail. Biological evolution refers to descent with modification, that is, change in the heritable traits of populations over time. The Theory of Evolution includes many related claims and observations, including descent with modification, natural variation, natural selection and Common Descent.Zachrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11268229653808829377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-46064977431857647662010-04-02T13:20:05.218-07:002010-04-02T13:20:05.218-07:00Per:
"Is there scientific doubt as to wheth...Per:<br /><br /><br />"Is there scientific doubt as to whether species go extinct?"<br /><br />No<br /><br />"Is there scientific doubt that the rabbit-population of Australia has exploded over the past 100 years?"<br /><br />No.<br /><br />"Evolution isn't natural selection."<br /><br />Agreed.<br /><br />"Evolution is 'the process of development' (evolution, part 'III', Oxford English Dictionary online edition)."<br /><br />False. Evolution is the theory that the species arose strictly via natural laws and processes.<br /><br /><br />"... or put in biological terms: the change of organic structures over time."<br /><br />False. On that definition even divine creation falls under evolution.<br /><br />The problem here is that evolutionists equivocate on their own idea. This is typical. The genre consistently, for centuries, mandates strict naturalism, and then when questioned about their absurdities, evolutionists pose the proverbial "who me?", back pedaling and saying all they ever claimed is that there has been change over time.Cornelius Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283098537456505707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-68431212427977426112010-04-02T07:17:59.452-07:002010-04-02T07:17:59.452-07:00Here is the referenced paper...
http://www2.hawaii...Here is the referenced paper...<br />http://www2.hawaii.edu/~scallaha/SMCsite/MIcro671Links/25-Epigenetics/CasadesusRev.pdf<br /><br />Zachriel, while I agree the Dr. Hunter's innuendo that such capabilities didn't evolve "...is, of course, not motivated by science", the articles are still interesting.<br /><br />I look at it with a bias towards orchestrated quantum effects. Sometimes the evidence is supportive, other times it neither supports nor contradicts. I will look at this in detail on this basis.Thought Provokerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08288695859490482820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-1524273340512827852010-04-02T06:53:49.043-07:002010-04-02T06:53:49.043-07:00Cornelius Hunter: The idea that such capabilities ...<b>Cornelius Hunter</b>: <i>The idea that such capabilities evolved is, of course, not motivated by science. </i><br /><br />There's a pattern emerging. <br /><br /><b>CH</b>: This biological process is very complex.<br /><b>CH</b>: Therefore, it's a massive problem for evolution. <br /><b>CH</b>: Therefore, religion drives science. <br /><br />That means arguing the particulars of your post don't seem particularly relevant. We know that evolutionary processes can generate complexity, so your argument is unfounded—whether or not the modern Theory of Evolution is on solid ground.Zachrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11268229653808829377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-45994903442653213742010-04-02T06:31:03.980-07:002010-04-02T06:31:03.980-07:00Is there scientific doubt as to whether species go...Is there scientific doubt as to whether species go extinct? Is there scientific doubt that the rabbit-population of Australia has exploded over the past 100 years? <br />Evolution isn't natural selection. Evolution is 'the process of development' (evolution, part 'III', Oxford English Dictionary online edition). Natural selection is one account, among others, of how stability can be achieved in an evolving state of affairs, or put in biological terms: the change of organic structures over time.Perhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09134730923262894781noreply@blogger.com