tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post7384816923292938979..comments2024-01-23T02:32:28.567-08:00Comments on Darwin's God: Here’s What’s Going on With BioLogosUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger209125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-32425470591232901322015-08-12T14:06:56.540-07:002015-08-12T14:06:56.540-07:00ghostrider,
It's been over a week since I ask...ghostrider,<br /><br />It's been over a week since I asked you if you could figure out why whales and dolphins swim differently than fish. And about the same amount of time since I asked you to demonstrate how a reptile could become not a reptile as required for descent from a single common ancestor as per evolutionary theory. <br /><br />I am forced to assume you cannot provide answers to either question and have therefore run away as all evolutionists eventually do.<br /><br />I am not at all surprised. Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-89678090853571614152015-08-10T20:56:32.784-07:002015-08-10T20:56:32.784-07:00Pedant,
"And it would have been able to crea...Pedant,<br /><br />"And it would have been able to create creatures who could comprehend that truth."<br /><br />He did.Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-29512582742203737872015-08-10T19:45:07.329-07:002015-08-10T19:45:07.329-07:00Pedant,
"Nic is good. People who disagree ar...Pedant,<br /><br />"Nic is good. People who disagree are bad."<br /><br />Thanks for demonstrating my point so eloquently.Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-62989834943322995182015-08-10T19:38:40.139-07:002015-08-10T19:38:40.139-07:00Nic is good. People who disagree are bad.Nic is good. People who disagree are bad.Pedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-11644837473782932212015-08-10T19:34:07.269-07:002015-08-10T19:34:07.269-07:00As I said earlier, if God did go into details of t...<i>As I said earlier, if God did go into details of the process of creation do you really believe you, I or anyone in the history of mankind would have even the faintest idea what was being conveyed?</i><br /><br />How can anyone know, since all we have is Genesis? Which you think is "an accurate history intended to guide man to a loving knowledge of his creator."<br /><br />Yes, I really believe that your "loving" god would have been honest enough and smart enough to tell the truth. And it would have been able to create creatures who could comprehend that truth.<br /><br />Your god is a pygmy, a cartoon figure.<br /><br />Pedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-81652022479756572002015-08-10T19:20:03.748-07:002015-08-10T19:20:03.748-07:00Pedant,
"Right, it's always your reader&...Pedant,<br /><br />"Right, it's always your reader's fault."<br /><br />No, it's not always the reader's fault. But in your case it's intentional and very frequent. Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-63446943377213753732015-08-10T19:14:28.896-07:002015-08-10T19:14:28.896-07:00Why do you always try to distort what I say?
Righ...<i>Why do you always try to distort what I say?</i><br /><br />Right, it's always your reader's fault. There is no possibility that you are incoherent and as full of bluster as Donald Trump.Pedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-19879555229584263752015-08-10T18:59:41.001-07:002015-08-10T18:59:41.001-07:00Pedant,
"because he is intelligent enough to...Pedant,<br /><br />"because he is intelligent enough to fill in his god's blanks,..."<br /><br />Why do you always try to distort what I say?<br /><br />Here is my earlier comment regards God going into detail about the process of creation. You'll notice I include myself among those with a pea brain.<br /><br />Nic, August 6: "As I said earlier, if God did go into details of the process of creation do you really believe you, I or anyone in the history of mankind would have even the faintest idea what was being conveyed?"Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-2642765424304089302015-08-10T17:35:53.601-07:002015-08-10T17:35:53.601-07:00By the way, Nic, I'll ask ask again:
What is ...By the way, Nic, I'll ask ask again:<br /><br />What is your method for distinguishing true from false gods?<br /><br />Please dumb it down for us pea-brains.Pedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-55213436356517150532015-08-10T17:32:09.700-07:002015-08-10T17:32:09.700-07:00No, I'm saying you're beyond delusional if...<i>No, I'm saying you're beyond delusional if you think God MUST explain how he created and that your little pea brain would understand it.<br /><br />My, don't we think highly of ourselves? You're quite entertaining in your belief you are on top of this subject.</i><br /><br />Interesting. Nic understands his god very well, because he is intelligent enough to fill in his god's blanks, whereas the rest of us with "pea brains" are too stupid to figure it all out.<br /><br />Maybe we pea-brained folks weren't created by his god.<br /><br />Pedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-68369314965183437312015-08-10T08:03:42.446-07:002015-08-10T08:03:42.446-07:00Pedant,
"Please keep talking, Nic. You'r...Pedant,<br /><br />"Please keep talking, Nic. You're a goldmine."<br /><br />My, don't we think highly of ourselves? You're quite entertaining in your belief you are on top of this subject.Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-52385100704118097592015-08-10T08:01:34.076-07:002015-08-10T08:01:34.076-07:00Pedant,
Nic: "As I said earlier, if God did ...Pedant,<br /><br />Nic: "As I said earlier, if God did go into details of the process of creation do you really believe you, I or anyone in the history of mankind would have even the faintest idea what was being conveyed?"<br /><br />Pedant: "Are you saying that God is incapable of coherent exposition?"<br /><br />No, I'm saying you're beyond delusional if you think God MUST explain how he created and that your little pea brain would understand it. Again, quite a different thing. <br /><br />Nice attempt at trying to put words in my mouth, but as usual, you failed.<br /><br /><br />"I think your God and the effort he took into perfecting his Creation deserve more respect!"<br /><br />You're correct, especially from atheistic evolutionists as yourself.Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-46352899194665699522015-08-10T07:57:17.996-07:002015-08-10T07:57:17.996-07:00Pedant,
"Or is it hearsay?"
To you it ...Pedant,<br /><br />"Or is it hearsay?"<br /><br />To you it would be hearsay, to Jews and Christians it is Moses writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Quite a different thing.Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-56777409011396368732015-08-10T07:54:55.620-07:002015-08-10T07:54:55.620-07:00Pedant,
"Evolutionists are delusional?"...Pedant,<br /><br />"Evolutionists are delusional?"<br /><br />In this regard, yes they are. And in my opinion many other areas as well. Any one who believes life arose spontaneously is definitely delusional.Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-36108507863993333592015-08-07T17:21:41.627-07:002015-08-07T17:21:41.627-07:00Please keep talking, Nic. You're a goldmine.Please keep talking, Nic. You're a goldmine.Pedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-10156382339523415062015-08-07T17:20:29.813-07:002015-08-07T17:20:29.813-07:00As I said earlier, if God did go into details of t...<i>As I said earlier, if God did go into details of the process of creation do you really believe you, I or anyone in the history of mankind would have even the faintest idea what was being conveyed?</i><br /><br />Are you saying that God is incapable of coherent exposition?<br /><br />This is a shocking revelation of your idiosyncratic thinking. I think your God and the effort he took into perfecting his Creation deserve more respect!Pedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-33277428298494105712015-08-07T17:11:43.430-07:002015-08-07T17:11:43.430-07:00Genesis is first and foremost historical.
Do you...<i>Genesis is first and foremost historical. </i><br /><br />Do you claim that Genesis is an eyewitness report?<br /><br />Or is it hearsay?Pedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-54541707876392922612015-08-07T17:10:13.691-07:002015-08-07T17:10:13.691-07:00Evolutionists suffer under the delusional idea tha...<i>Evolutionists suffer under the delusional idea that if God exists he somehow owes it to them to accede to their demands to explain himself and how he chose to create life and how he chooses to relate to his creation.</i><br /><br />Evolutionists are delusional? It's one thing to disagree. It's another to accuse someone who disagrees of being deluded, which advances the discussion not at all, but this is a Creationist arguing.<br /><br />God must accede to their demands? If they prayed really, really hard, maybe He would.Pedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-354506964011192682015-08-06T21:20:43.791-07:002015-08-06T21:20:43.791-07:00ghostrider,
"So reptile is an example of a &...ghostrider,<br /><br />"So reptile is an example of a "kind. Got it."<br /><br />Where did I say that? I simply said reptiles remain reptiles. <br /><br />Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-41018020405096540712015-08-06T20:49:45.777-07:002015-08-06T20:49:45.777-07:00Nic
Kinds are immutable in that reptiles will alw...<i>Nic<br /><br />Kinds are immutable in that reptiles will always remain reptiles</i><br /><br />So reptile is an example of a "kind". Got it.<br /><br />Which reptile "kind" was taken on the Ark? Turtles? Crocodiles? Rattlesnakes? How did reptiles manage to diverge into so many different forms in just 4500 years?Ghostriderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686873801972423841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-57650362658346820442015-08-06T20:03:54.851-07:002015-08-06T20:03:54.851-07:00Pedant,
"What is your position? Is Genesis h...Pedant,<br /><br />"What is your position? Is Genesis historic or scientific or both?"<br /><br />Genesis is first and foremost historical. In the process of relating historical events it describes matters relating to the modern practice of science. It is not intended to be science, but portions relate to science. <br /><br />Why is that so hard for you to grasp?<br /><br />"Why can't you be clear about your position?"<br /><br />I think I am clear about my position. I believe the problem comes on your end. You have a particular view of Genesis and the Bible in general and you can't grasp that someone else may have a different view.<br /><br />I'm guessing based on some of your other comments that you're an atheist. Please correct me if I am wrong. As an atheist you see the Bible only as an ancient book written by people you view as not as intelligent as we are. And therefore it is not to be taken seriously in any way.<br /><br />However, I view it as the inspired word of God written by very intelligent men under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. It is an accurate history intended to guide man to a loving knowledge of his creator. <br /><br />As such it supplies what it needs to in order to accomplish that goal. An accurate and detailed scientific account of creation is not one of those requirements. As I said earlier, if God did go into details of the process of creation do you really believe you, I or anyone in the history of mankind would have even the faintest idea what was being conveyed?<br /><br />Evolutionists suffer under the delusional idea that if God exists he somehow owes it to them to accede to their demands to explain himself and how he chose to create life and how he chooses to relate to his creation. He doesn't.Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-21951534015148902342015-08-06T19:43:20.566-07:002015-08-06T19:43:20.566-07:00Pedant,
"Are kinds immutable or not?"
...Pedant,<br /><br />"Are kinds immutable or not?"<br /><br />Don't think for a moment that I am unaware of your attempt to twist what I say. <br /><br />Kinds are immutable in that reptiles will always remain reptiles, equines will remain equines, etc. No they are not immutable in that they can never change. There has been a great deal of variation with canines, equines, felines, etc. But they never stop being what they are.<br /><br />Now go ahead and try to twist that around so you can claim I said that the various animals have not changed since they were created. Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-48267200475897862622015-08-06T19:36:55.132-07:002015-08-06T19:36:55.132-07:00Pedant,
"pompously declares that people who ...Pedant,<br /><br />"pompously declares that people who disagree with his/her opinions are flawed in some way."<br /><br />Kindly point me to an instance where I said anyone who disagreed with my opinion was somehow flawed.<br /><br />"Why are you pretending to be ignorant? It is right there in Genesis 1. Grow up and admit you were wrong."<br /><br />I said that because I felt it to be true. You were pretending to be unaware of what was stated in Genesis 1 when I had just plainly pointed it out to you. Yes, I thought that to be immature.<br /><br />"Responses like this do not advance discussion, but are a poorly camouflaged way for a person to run away from the argument."<br /><br />How can you possibly construe that as me running from the argument?<br /><br />"This Nic person should thank me for encouraging him/her to admit that you are a young earth Creationist. Earlier, you were ambivalent:"<br /><br />I have been in the creationist camp long before I came across you, so please, don't flatter yourself. And perhaps you should look up the meaning of ambivalent.<br /><br />"I certainly used to accept that time frame. I am now moving to the denial of it."<br /><br />That is not an expression of ambivalence.<br /><br />"I guess that this is closest you can come to admitting that you take Genesis literally, and for that declaration of faith, you owe me a debt of gratitude." <br /><br />Hardly. I don't know where you came up with this idea that you have been personally responsible for guiding my move to creationism, but believe me it is completely delusional. But if it makes you feel good, indulge yourself.<br /><br />"pleased the correct Jehovah."<br /><br />As there is only one God, I am not to worried about the opinions of the non-existent others.Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-9965895886521226842015-08-06T17:28:02.087-07:002015-08-06T17:28:02.087-07:00It's really quite funny, and pathetic at the s...<i>It's really quite funny, and pathetic at the same time, that you don't understand the difference between a historic document and a scientific document.</i><br /><br />What is your position? Is Genesis historic or scientific or both?<br /><br />Why can't you be clear about your position?Pedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-37012505278721299072015-08-06T17:25:18.904-07:002015-08-06T17:25:18.904-07:00would take issue with your claim that kinds are im...<i>would take issue with your claim that kinds are immutable."<br /><br />And where did I say that? Where did I imply that?</i><br /><br />Are kinds immutable or not? <br /><br />Yes<br /><br />or <br /><br />No?Pedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.com