tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post3692473131210003618..comments2024-01-23T02:32:28.567-08:00Comments on Darwin's God: You Won’t Believe What Politicians Are up to NowUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger206125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-58057112540776457982013-04-17T23:30:23.274-07:002013-04-17T23:30:23.274-07:00brought on mother of bride dresses by culturaldist...brought on <a href="http://www.honeybuy.com/c/Mother-Of-The-Bride-Dresses" rel="nofollow"><strong>mother of bride dresses</strong></a> by culturaldistinctions.Equivalent would be the result of cultural incommensurate and mutual penetration of cultures.In the majority of Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16337303870987607903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-31180236574988785032013-01-31T11:26:31.014-08:002013-01-31T11:26:31.014-08:00Thanks Velik, I also googled. Looks like any party...Thanks Velik, I also googled. Looks like any party food goes.<br /><br />It's funny about that N'awlins talk. I was couple of times in W.Virginia and I had hard times understanding some locals.Eugenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513772766225981430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-84750346033423596412013-01-31T09:39:53.998-08:002013-01-31T09:39:53.998-08:00Nic
Somewhat the same as New Orleans becoming ...Nic<br /><b><br />Somewhat the same as New Orleans becoming 'Nawlens'?</b><br /><br />More New Awlins or N'awlins, car becomes "ca", water becomes " wata", pronouncing "r" is too exerting.<br /><br />Eugen,<br /><br /><b>Superbowl is coming, I'm making chili but I would like suggestions for what else to make. What's usually cooked on that day?</b><br /><br />Chips and queso, chips and hot sauce, hot wings, velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01825529912160289226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-30762938021644394722013-01-31T02:05:11.069-08:002013-01-31T02:05:11.069-08:00Hey gordo, can you cite any non-biblical reference...Hey gordo, can you cite any non-biblical reference to "Jesus Christ" from an eye witness who lived at the same time as "Jesus Christ" is alleged to have lived, and who "testified" to eye witnessing all of the things attributed to "Jesus Christ" in the bible? Just wondering. <br /><br />The whole truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219999357041824471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-47393309976526746012013-01-31T01:40:01.866-08:002013-01-31T01:40:01.866-08:00With all due respect for joey? What respect is due...With all due respect for joey? What respect is due? You are referring to joey g, who threatens people with violence, stalks and harasses people, stole a person's photo to use as his avatar on AtBC, constantly lies and makes things up, craps in every website he has ever posted on, operates a science hating site, and a long list of other despicable behavior, aren't you?<br /><br />joey even bashes the bible and the christian god at times yet pushes them at other times and yet you, a self proclaimed christian, align yourself with him and offer him "due respect"? <br /><br />Anything goes as long as it supports your dominionist agenda, right gordo? If a serial killer were a supporter of ID, you would eagerly welcome him/her with open arms into your 'big tent', wouldn't you? Do you have any scruples at all, gordon elliott mullings of Manjack Heights, Montserrat? Don't bother to respond to that question, I already know the real answer. A serial killer would be mild by comparison to the genocidal maniac yhwh, your imagined and worshiped leader of the 'big tent' of ID. <br /><br />You and joey are two deranged peas in a pod. <br /><br />P.S. How are your convicted, murderous friends doing, gordo? The whole truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219999357041824471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-55094797035653789642013-01-31T00:46:16.046-08:002013-01-31T00:46:16.046-08:00joey stupidly asserted:
"So what? That doesn...joey stupidly asserted:<br /><br />"So what? That doesn't mean tha battery is connected to the exhaust system. By your "logic" the road is connected to the car via the tires."<br /><br />A car is connected to a road via the tires, unless the car is not on a road or has no tires or is on its side or is upside down. <br /><br />"Here's what you need to do- measure the voltage on the exhaust system- if it shows 12VDC then the battery is connected to it. If it shows 0 VDC then it isn't connected."<br /><br />Even if one of the battery cables is disconnected and there's no voltage to anything in the car, the battery is still connected to the car and the exhaust system via the other cable. Even if no cables or other wires are connected from the battery posts to the car, the battery is still connected to the car and exhaust system via sitting in the battery box, especially when the battery is clamped down. <br /><br />By your "logic" (LOL), a car's tires are not connected to the rims if there are no screws, bolts, or welds that connect them. <br /><br />The whole truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219999357041824471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-35577823398705474082013-01-31T00:14:04.139-08:002013-01-31T00:14:04.139-08:00Part two.
Nic said:
"However, I'm not s...Part two.<br /><br />Nic said:<br /><br />"However, I'm not surprised. Pseudo-intellectuals such as yourself never bother to educate themselves on anything. They would rather spout utter tripe and think themselves intelligent. It's much easier than actually putting any effort into learning something."<br /><br />Did I hurt baby jesus's feelings?<br /><br />"Instead of LYAO, try educating yourself as to the nature of history and historical research. It's painfully obvious as to how utterly ignorant you are on these subjects."<br /><br />What history, the real thing or the one religious zealots make up?The whole truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219999357041824471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-53483125999807034422013-01-31T00:11:30.135-08:002013-01-31T00:11:30.135-08:00Nic said:
"And how do you know his name was ...Nic said:<br /><br />"And how do you know his name was Otzi?"<br /><br />I didn't say that it "was" Ötzi the Iceman. That's the label applied to him now. <br /><br />"All there is is a body."<br /><br />Along with other items and his location. His body, other items, and location tells a lot about him.<br /><br />"If you're going to require bodies as proof of someones existence in antiquity, you're going to have a sparsely populated world."<br /><br />We're not talking abut everyone in antiquity. You claimed:<br /><br />"There is more evidence for the existence of Christ than any other person in antiquity."<br /><br />That is false. In fact, it's a ridiculous claim. There is no "evidence" that the fictional, biblical character jesus christ ever existed. <br /><br />"Tell me genius, what is the source of this knowledge?"<br /><br />Scientific exploration and research. <br /><br />" And you really think you're rational?"<br /><br />Most of the time. <br /><br />"Are you more rational than virtually every qualified historian alive? It's obvious you didn't bother to listen to the interview with Bart Ehrman I mentioned earlier."<br /><br />Is Ehrman every qualified historian alive? Does every "qualified" historian alive agree that jesus christ existed, and was exactly as described in the bible? <br /><br />I didn't watch the video because I can't with my slow internet connection, and if you're appealing to authority you're wasting your time.<br /><br />By the way, have you seen Ehrman's latest book?:<br /><br />"Forgery and Counterforgery:<br />The Use of Literary Deceit in Early Christian Polemics<br />Book Description -- "Arguably the most distinctive feature of the early Christian literature," writes Bart Ehrman, "is the degree to which it was forged." The Homilies and Recognitions of Clement; Paul's letters to and from Seneca; Gospels by Peter, Thomas, and Philip; Jesus' correspondence with Abgar, letters by Peter and Paul in the New Testament--all forgeries. To cite just a few examples.<br /><br />Forgery and Counterforgery is the first comprehensive study of early Christian pseudepigrapha ever produced in English. In it, Ehrman argues that ancient critics--pagan, Jewish, and Christian--understood false authorial claims to be a form of literary deceit, and thus forgeries. Ehrman considers the extent of the phenomenon, the "intention" and motivations of ancient Greek, Roman, and Jewish forgers, and reactions to their work once detected. He also assesses the criteria ancient critics applied to expose forgeries and the techniques forgers used to avoid detection. With the wider practices of the ancient world as backdrop, Ehrman then focuses on early Christian polemics, as various Christian authors forged documents in order to lend their ideas a veneer of authority in literary battles waged with pagans, Jews, and, most importantly, with one another in internecine disputes over doctrine and practice. In some instances a forger directed his work against views found in another forgery, creating thereby a "counter-forgery." Ehrman's evaluation of polemical forgeries starts with those of the New Testament (nearly half of whose books make a false authorial claim) up through the Pseudo-Ignatian epistles and the Apostolic Constitutions at the end of the fourth century.<br /><br />Shining light on an important but overlooked feature of the early Christian world, Forgery and Counterforgery explores the possible motivations of the deceivers who produced these writings, situating their practice within ancient Christian discourses on lying and deceit."<br /><br />From here:<br /><br />http://www.bartdehrman.com/<br /><br />See part two.<br />The whole truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219999357041824471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-79383539181231620972013-01-30T14:09:30.437-08:002013-01-30T14:09:30.437-08:00Superbowl is coming, I'm making chili but I wo...Superbowl is coming, I'm making chili but I would like suggestions for what else to make. What's usually cooked on that day? Eugenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513772766225981430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-91827960436982343372013-01-30T12:52:23.121-08:002013-01-30T12:52:23.121-08:00I have relatives in the deep south and from them I...I have relatives in the deep south and from them I learned:<br /><br />What is the plural of "y'all"?<br /><br /><br />It's "all y'all". :)Ghostriderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686873801972423841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-37597128911773581182013-01-30T11:59:57.243-08:002013-01-30T11:59:57.243-08:00velikovskys,
"Yat is from the greeting"...velikovskys,<br /><br />"Yat is from the greeting" where y'at"<br /><br />Somewhat the same as New Orleans becoming 'Nawlens'?Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-14901821779057264542013-01-30T06:24:25.737-08:002013-01-30T06:24:25.737-08:00The Truth
You were sort of on tracks lately.
Wha...The Truth<br /><br />You were sort of on tracks lately.<br /><br />What the heck are you talking about now? Are you making personal attacks? How that helps discussion anyway? <br /><br />Eugenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513772766225981430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-49754331897379512832013-01-30T05:20:50.134-08:002013-01-30T05:20:50.134-08:00Pons Asinorum<a href="http://planetmath.org/PonsAsinorum.html" rel="nofollow">Pons Asinorum</a>GEM of The Kairos Initiativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10622199013789009422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-16899586178045625192013-01-30T05:17:36.422-08:002013-01-30T05:17:36.422-08:00While I am at it, let me cite Barnett, as appears ...While I am at it, let me cite Barnett, as appears in the OP as linked just above, on early NON-Christian attestation tot he existence of Jesus:<br /><br />>> On the basis of . . . non-Christian sources [i.e. Tacitus (Annals, on the fire in Rome, AD 64; written ~ AD 115), Rabbi Eliezer (~ 90's AD; cited J. Klausner, Jesus of Nazareth (London: Collier-Macmillan, 1929), p. 34), Pliny (Letters to Trajan from Bithynia, ~ AD 112), Josephus (Antiquities, ~ 90's)] it is possible to draw the following conclusions:<br /><br /> Jesus Christ was executed (by crucifixion?) in Judaea during the period where Tiberius was Emperor (AD 14 – 37) and Pontius Pilate was Governor (AD 26 – 36). [Tacitus]<br /> The movement spread from Judaea to Rome. [Tacitus]<br /> Jesus claimed to be God and that he would depart and return. [Eliezer]<br /> His followers worshipped him as (a) god. [Pliny]<br /> He was called “the Christ.” [Josephus]<br /> His followers were called “Christians.” [Tacitus, Pliny]<br /> They were numerous in Bithynia and Rome [Tacitus, Pliny]<br /> It was a world-wide movement. [Eliezer]<br /> His brother was James. [Josephus]<br /><br /> [Is the New Testament History? (London, Hodder, 1987), pp. 30 - 31. Cf. McDowell & Wilson, He Walked Among Us (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson, 1993) for more details; free for download <a href="http://joshmcdowellmedia.org/FreeBooks%20/He%20Walked%20Among%20Us.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a>.]>><br /><br />Notice, the bar I am setting here is very low, not assenting to Christian Theology, just basic willingness to face evidence that points to the reality of Jesus as a person who walked about in C1 Palestine. <br /><br />This is pons asinorum, folks.<br /><br />If people are unwilling to face such and fly off into rage, slander, outing tactics and false accusations in the face of something so basic and easily confirmed on eyewitness lifetime testimony by friend and foe alike, how can we expect them to give a fair hearing to <a href="http://iose-gen.blogspot.com/2010/06/introduction-and-summary.html#csi_issu" rel="nofollow">the more complex inference to best explanation</a> involved in reasoning concerning the design inference?<br /><br />KFGEM of The Kairos Initiativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10622199013789009422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-28392537296936986412013-01-30T04:58:16.581-08:002013-01-30T04:58:16.581-08:00F/N: Again, for record:
I have of course made a m...F/N: Again, for record:<br /><br />I have of course made a main response to the evidentialism, selectively hyperskeptical fallacy evident in the comment thread, <a href="http://www.uncommondescent.com/atheism/on-a-case-study-of-the-willful-closed-mindedness-produced-by-the-selective-hyperskepticism-of-the-new-atheist-mindset/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br /><br />I have also specifically responded to the further underscoring of willful obtuseness, <a href="http://www.uncommondescent.com/atheism/on-a-case-study-of-the-willful-closed-mindedness-produced-by-the-selective-hyperskepticism-of-the-new-atheist-mindset/#comment-445163" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br /><br />I also observe to CH that he has a commenter resorting to slander and personal abuse, multiplied by attempted outing. <br /><br />KF<br /><br />PS: With all due respect, JG, I doubt that resorting to stridency will help matters.GEM of The Kairos Initiativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10622199013789009422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-54096377503828951402013-01-29T14:35:49.263-08:002013-01-29T14:35:49.263-08:00Yat is from the greeting" where y'at"...Yat is from the greeting" where y'at"<br />The Yat dialect is the most pronounced version of the New Orleans Accent. Natives often speak with varying degrees of the Brooklyn-esque accent, ranging from a slight intonation to what is considered full Yat<br /><br />velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01825529912160289226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-40851557246006444822013-01-29T14:26:45.094-08:002013-01-29T14:26:45.094-08:00Your eyes are getting worse ,Joe. Stop while there...Your eyes are getting worse ,Joe. Stop while there still is hope.velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01825529912160289226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-37966779426883501472013-01-29T13:09:07.780-08:002013-01-29T13:09:07.780-08:00The whole truth,
"Does your TV remote contro...The whole truth,<br /><br />"Does your TV remote control connect to your TV?" <br /><br />What's needed here is an agreed definition of 'connect'.Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-68990440051690587432013-01-29T13:06:24.359-08:002013-01-29T13:06:24.359-08:00velikovskys,
"In New Orleans a Mook is known...velikovskys,<br /><br />"In New Orleans a Mook is known as a Yat."<br /><br />Mook has a nicer ring to it. Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-52816105507280185292013-01-29T12:41:06.045-08:002013-01-29T12:41:06.045-08:00Connected...def
Bring together or into contact so...Connected...def<br /><br />Bring together or into contact so that a real or notional link is established<br /><br /><b>Joe, <br /><br />Here's what you need to do- measure the voltage on the exhaust system- if it shows 12VDC then the battery is connected to it. If it shows 0 VDC then it isn't connected.</b><br /><br />It will if you read the voltage at the positive side of the battery, by your logic the negative side of the battery is not connected to the battery. <br /><br /><br />Nic,<br /><br />In New Orleans a Mook is known as a Yat. <br />velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01825529912160289226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-87413845649863522362013-01-29T11:24:35.604-08:002013-01-29T11:24:35.604-08:00velikovsks,
"Just so you don't feel alon...velikovsks,<br /><br />"Just so you don't feel alone in your mookitude, Nic"<br /><br />Mookishness carries with it a certain joie de vivre.Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-7826249327280636692013-01-29T11:12:34.449-08:002013-01-29T11:12:34.449-08:00Joe G,
"So what? That doesn't mean tha b...Joe G,<br /><br />"So what? That doesn't mean tha battery is connected to the exhaust system. By your "logic" the road is connected to the car via the tires.<br /><br />Here's what you need to do- measure the voltage on the exhaust system- if it shows 12VDC then the battery is connected to it. If it shows 0 VDC then it isn't connected."<br /><br />Thank you Joe. Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-80285022827281706172013-01-29T11:08:02.287-08:002013-01-29T11:08:02.287-08:00Thorton,
"The paper on Cetacean evolution I ...Thorton,<br /><br />"The paper on Cetacean evolution I just linked to and you just asked about being enlightened on. THAT paper."<br /><br />I found the link you're referring to in an earlier post, I missed it, sorry. I thought you were referring to a link in your last post. I'm beginning to think maybe I am a mook. I'll read it. <br /><br />"LOL! Yes you did you. You put my name on another quote from velikovskys<br /><br />Headed for the Mook Hall of Fame you are. ;)"<br /><br />Hall of Fame, that's been my goal. Sorry, again!<br /><br />If only the Oilers could score 5 on 5 they would be deadly.<br /><br /><br />Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08693133888203943510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-58074862119610127212013-01-29T04:46:42.152-08:002013-01-29T04:46:42.152-08:00What?? I'm came here because of money, I guess...What?? I'm came here because of money, I guess I should pack my suit cases and go back.Eugenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513772766225981430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-34399540721827152152013-01-29T04:36:53.921-08:002013-01-29T04:36:53.921-08:00You want to play with my special purpose?
No tha...You want to play with my special purpose? <br /><br />No thanksJoe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.com