tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post3417379550494834402..comments2024-01-23T02:32:28.567-08:00Comments on Darwin's God: Get Rid of Evolution With This One Weird TrickUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger489125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-16952057537999297012016-02-04T21:02:11.895-08:002016-02-04T21:02:11.895-08:00Your fervor matches that of the zealots you decry,...Your fervor matches that of the zealots you decry, Ed. <br /><br />I hate to break it to you, but I think you're breaking down into random amino acids. Try stepping out of the NaOH - save your proteins while they're still folded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-79538891322099381922016-02-04T11:44:20.513-08:002016-02-04T11:44:20.513-08:00"It doesn't take a fundamentalist to deny..."It doesn't take a fundamentalist to deny tTOE. "<br /><br />But it does! It takes a religious madman!<br />Ed Vaessenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02905973956978663049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-17113861251331232572016-02-04T11:40:35.051-08:002016-02-04T11:40:35.051-08:00"Science deals with the material world that c..."Science deals with the material world that can be observed. It is not at odds with the bible, and has nothing to do with idolatry such as Mary worship, virgin births, or any religious dogma."<br /><br />But Mary as virgin giving birth to Jesus is exactly what you believe! Your Bible says so!<br />Ed Vaessenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02905973956978663049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-73856944250534758912016-02-04T11:36:37.179-08:002016-02-04T11:36:37.179-08:00Virgin giving birth to Jesus...
Hoe silly Christia...Virgin giving birth to Jesus...<br />Hoe silly Christians can get!<br />Ed Vaessenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02905973956978663049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-91264569809631124312016-02-04T08:57:34.356-08:002016-02-04T08:57:34.356-08:00And Cornelius Hunter is mad...And Cornelius Hunter is mad...Ed Vaessenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02905973956978663049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-15075092379538259182016-02-04T08:55:48.558-08:002016-02-04T08:55:48.558-08:00Hateful? What a strange thought. I only said you k...Hateful? What a strange thought. I only said you know nothing about science and that you fit perfectly in the long row of religious fanatics that for more than 150 years proudly (and in vain) have proclaimed the imminent demise of evolution theory, all of them without for one second understanding why science won't give way to such religious madness.<br />You believe in a virgin giving birth to Jesus! How silly one can get...<br />Ed Vaessenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02905973956978663049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-61831693793989963342016-02-04T05:25:37.196-08:002016-02-04T05:25:37.196-08:00Ah given up scrolling? Good idea actually.
Well ...Ah given up scrolling? Good idea actually.<br /><br />Well indeed I made up a tale, just like I said I was going to. <br /><br />Well no matter how many times I say I found evolution lacking on its own grounds, you will say only a fundamentalist would reject it and come up with more hateful things to say. So I'll go graze greener pastures.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-91338281336746332232016-02-04T00:25:45.597-08:002016-02-04T00:25:45.597-08:00"tTOE only addresses what happens after an im..."tTOE only addresses what happens after an impossible event, and to that I would say "How can you argue what happened after an ideal arrangement of our solar system and the life that followed but skip over how it got there in the first place? You can't have one without the other, and to argue what happened after something impossible is dishonest and preposterous."" <br /><br />What a tale. So wrong.<br />We can easily skip over things for which we yet have no answer. Science simply does not have all final answers, but that never hindered it to find out a lot of things things. Geology, for example, was already science, even if scientists did not know how the elements formed that make up the earth.<br /><br />What you do is asking questions and as soon as a person cannot answer one of them, you joyfully say: "See? You have no answer,. So I am right!"<br />A logical fallacy if I ever saw one.<br /><br />Stop thinking that you know about science. You will never know what it is.<br />And that all because you can't live without the idea of your Jesus Christ saving your soul.<br />That is dishonest and preposterous, as we can expect from a religious fanatic.<br />Ed Vaessenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02905973956978663049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-32347820156932409982016-02-03T13:52:05.009-08:002016-02-03T13:52:05.009-08:00Science deals with the material world that can be ...Science deals with the material world that can be observed. It is not at odds with the bible, and has nothing to do with idolatry such as Mary worship, virgin births, or any religious dogma.<br /><br />So we clearly agree that the bible and science are independent. I also don't think they're mutually exclusive, but I won't speak for you.<br /><br />I am going to guess that what you're saying is that because the bible says God created the universe and earth and the things therein, I am willfully ignoring the scientific evidence that could be interpreted to imply that we evolved from lower beings in a way that is characterized by tTOE. That's a fair argument, so let me put on my pretend cap.<br /><br />Supposing I was ignorant of any religious dogma, specifically knowledge of the bible and of Christianity, one of my questions would be a perpetual "and where did that come from?" until a suitable answer was obtained. I would find the idea of spontaneous generation of the universe preposterous, and find the idea that the universe always existed in its form with no beginning equally preposterous. <br /><br />tTOE only addresses what happens after an impossible event, and to that I would say "How can you argue what happened after an ideal arrangement of our solar system and the life that followed but skip over how it got there in the first place? You can't have one without the other, and to argue what happened after something impossible is dishonest and preposterous."<br /><br />I just don't find tTOE very convincing, and there are signs in its use (cant get into detail atm) that set off my "there's something not right here" alarm.<br /><br />It doesn't take a fundamentalist to deny tTOE, and to deny tTOE doesn't make one a fundamentalist. It makes one face what tTOE shies away from: the beginning of the universe. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-79015148279998898422016-02-03T12:14:49.667-08:002016-02-03T12:14:49.667-08:00Science does not revolve around the Bible and some...Science does not revolve around the Bible and some Jesus who supposedly was born from a virgin. And that is what you cannot accept. If something contradicts the Bible, it must be wrong according to you.<br />It is as simple as that.<br /><br />Ed Vaessenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02905973956978663049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-51673170955350282122016-02-03T09:59:58.683-08:002016-02-03T09:59:58.683-08:00I understand why tTOE is so widely accepted. It w...I understand why tTOE is so widely accepted. It was repeatedly stated to be fact over the years. [Yes, no longer should it be regarded a theory, but a fact.] Not my words.<br /><br />With that as the background, anyone who should say otherwise will be attacked, ridiculed, and so on like you demonstrated on me.<br /><br />Most people live life like it's the end when you die, so going against the grain and subjecting yourself to humiliation to expose the truth is not worth it when you can have a much better life agreeing when doing so causes no harm.<br /><br />That is why it is so widely regarded as truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-61010388912371374952016-02-03T09:42:27.818-08:002016-02-03T09:42:27.818-08:00"The points still stand, however. In my obser..."The points still stand, however. In my observations, tTOE model cannot make consistent and accurate predictions. In my observations, evolutionary science is of little use to science not trying to find evidence of evolution. In my opinion, evolution is most valuable as an alternative to creation, rather than an model the evidence fits neatly (or even crudely) under."<br /><br />I think you will die without understanding why evolution theory is broadly accepted science and why Cornelius Hunter is not a Galileo but a Don Quichot.<br />People that accept that some Saviour is born from a virgin, never questioning that, simply accepting it, are immune to proof.<br /><br /><br />Ed Vaessenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02905973956978663049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-28227957053206824832016-02-03T09:07:12.122-08:002016-02-03T09:07:12.122-08:00You're seriously going to appeal to the bandwa...You're seriously going to appeal to the bandwagon? That's weak.<br /><br />You cut out a few essential parts. You implied there were no predictions from evolution that were wrong ("what might they be?"), but I pointed out a paper describing numerous findings that did not fit the model of tTOE. <br /><br />How can you call me a fanatic when you don't accept the fact that the bandwagon of scientists has had to replace their incorrect predictions numerous times?<br /><br />I visited an actual lab with real scientists doing scientific studies, and the evolutionary model was not something needed or useful for their research. Surely if it was helpful (in their research), these scientists would have had no problem using any theory to help explain their findings -- in hopes of being able to narrow their research and reach their goals quicker. The point being, evolution has little practical use for them, and I think it may be representative of science as a whole.<br /><br />Then you resort to personal attacks and putting words in my mouth. The reason is clear: the evidence is too thin to expose to the light of day. <br /><br />Also, evolution, the term itself, is used misleadingly. Evolution is the heritible change between successive generations. Well, we've known about that for, like, ever since the first babies were observed, having characterists of both parents. But it's switched out with that it explains the biological diversity of life on earth. That's a huge leap, and not very honest.<br /><br />Ed,<br /><br />Before your rant I had considerable respect for the way you approached this topic. I am disappointed you felt you had to resort to trying to make a laughing stock out of me with false statements. There's plenty of dumb things I say to make fun of that one doesn't need to resort to fiction.<br /><br /><br />The points still stand, however. In my observations, tTOE model cannot make consistent and accurate predictions. In my observations, evolutionary science is of little use to science not trying to find evidence of evolution. In my opinion, evolution is most valuable as an alternative to creation, rather than an model the evidence fits neatly (or even crudely) under.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-69422828015381758362016-02-03T08:14:26.702-08:002016-02-03T08:14:26.702-08:00What constitutes religious proof for a religious m...What constitutes religious proof for a religious man? Answer: anything that affirms, however questionable.<br />Is Jesus Christ the Word Incarnate? Quite so for a Christian. Quite not so for a Muslim.<br />And how now would a Muslim and a Christian discuss this matter when they come together?<br />Answer: they don’t. <br />A Christian simply learns, without checking, that Christ is God and was born from a virgin. So the Bible tells him. A Muslim learns, without checking, that Christ is fully human, but that indeed he was born from a virgin. So speaks the Quran.<br /><br />One has to see it to believe it, that such things are simply taken at face value.<br />But we do see it happening.<br />For that reason, we understand why a religious fanatic will never understand what proof actually is and why his attack on science is so utterly hopeless and boring.<br />Ed Vaessenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02905973956978663049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-50370881075410132352016-02-03T07:37:54.396-08:002016-02-03T07:37:54.396-08:00"Because evolution doesn't matter except ..."Because evolution doesn't matter except to the ones that need an alternative to creation."<br /><br />How warped the view of a Christian fundamentalist...<br />Everything is religion to him… <br />What does he conclude when you mention all those hundreds of thousands of scientists (in the fields relevant to evolution) supporting evolution? Something very simple he concludes: they all want to deny God!!!! Yes, they know very well that God exists!!! But these arrogant people deny Him!!! Curse them!!! Filthy little Hobbitses!!! (foam appearing on lips)<br /><br />How can we explain to a fanatic man that the world of science is not revolving around his religious or ideologic dogma? Answer: we can't. He is beyond reason.<br />Ed Vaessenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02905973956978663049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-33496224697812994442016-02-02T07:36:32.354-08:002016-02-02T07:36:32.354-08:00Where do you see me being paranoid? It was a pass...Where do you see me being paranoid? It was a passing musing. You really seem hateful towards fundamentalist Christians. All because they won't believe what you believe. Ironic.<br /><br />And this is a neat way to sidestep that you believe that since a new prediction has superseded a failed one, that there was never actually any failed prediction.<br /><br />I've recently, within the past few days, visited a malaria research laboratory, with rows of stations, liquid hydrogen containers, -80C freezers containing infectious organisms, microscopes with cameras, incubation machines, machines that move DNA through electricity, centrifuges, slides showing the effect of different drugs against malaria, and guess what? I didn't find a single evolution there. Nobody mentioned how it had any significance in their research. It wasn't used to explain anything.<br /><br />Because evolution doesn't matter except to the ones that need an alternative to creation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-52803188375207587302016-01-31T12:40:13.924-08:002016-01-31T12:40:13.924-08:00No such laws are needed.Only very paranoid people ...No such laws are needed.Only very paranoid people believe that such laws will be imposed. And there is much paranoia in fundamentalist christian circles.Ed Vaessenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02905973956978663049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-8577862549940705012016-01-17T15:58:49.714-08:002016-01-17T15:58:49.714-08:00Get rid evolution?...is it really working?...anyth...Get rid evolution?<a href="http://www.computerfactual.cf" rel="nofollow">.</a><a href="http://www.computerfactual.cf/2016/01/overclocking-optimalkan-kinerja-processor-cpu-dengan-cara-meningkatkan-kecepatan.html" rel="nofollow">.</a><a href="http://www.computerfactual.cf/2016/01/panduan-bermanfaat-langkah-cara-install-setting-windows-7-performa-maksimal.html" rel="nofollow">.</a>is it really working?<a href="http://www.computerfactual.cf/2016/01/tutorial-solusi-masalah-komputer-the-file-is-possibly-corrupt-header-does-not-match-computed-checksum.html" rel="nofollow">.</a><a href="http://www.computerfactual.cf/2016/01/cara-cari-uang-total-hanya-modal-komputer-internet-otak.html" rel="nofollow">.</a><a href="http://www.computerfactual.cf/2016/01/forex-trading-belajar-bisnis-jual-beli-mata-uang-asing-online.html" rel="nofollow">.</a>anything possible i think<a href="http://www.computerfactual.cf/2016/01/cara-mudah-menjalankan-windows-xp-7-8-mac-linux-tanpa-install.html" rel="nofollow">.</a><a href="http://www.computerfactual.cf" rel="nofollow">.</a><a href="http://www.computerfactual.cf" rel="nofollow">.</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366425392098571989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-31850500656212092882016-01-15T21:48:26.454-08:002016-01-15T21:48:26.454-08:00I know you didn't miss Cornelius' 21 days ...I know you didn't miss Cornelius' 21 days of evolutionary Christmas paper, so I'm taking this to mean that because new predictions superseded the fundamental and incorrect expectations of evolution, that those predictions were never wrong in the first place. Man, fundamentalists are a piece of work.<br /><br />Science is blind to bias, but humans are just blind. Some day, there will be evolution denial laws to make sure nobody questions it.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-52598054819801681242016-01-12T14:16:57.877-08:002016-01-12T14:16:57.877-08:00At Addvantum, we believe in driving this change fo...At Addvantum, we believe in driving this change for you. We provide you the platform to ‘grow’ as well as ‘know’. We assist you to grow and hone your skills and competencies; as well as help you ‘know’ yourself as a professional. 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"Evolution endeavors to ...Did I do that wrote:<br />"Evolution endeavors to explain how biological life came about from lesser biological life. Not what it's made up of, like chemistry. Skipping the question of how the material for biological life came to form is a tacit admission of the untenable position of tTOE. To wave it away is tantamount to burying your head in the quicksand.<br /><br />It yields hatred and fanaticism."<br /><br /><br />Well, I do not deny you the right to to think strange things that have nothing to do with reality.<br />Ed Vaessenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02905973956978663049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-56393993197690328082016-01-11T12:49:45.515-08:002016-01-11T12:49:45.515-08:00Did I do that?
Your belief in this is strong
My ...<i>Did I do that?<br /><br />Your belief in this is strong</i><br /><br />My acceptance of scientifically verified reality is strong. That makes one of us.<br /><br /><i>Evolutionists had a choice when it came to presenting their theory as indisputable science to school children and saw opposition by non-evolutionists: </i><br /><br />Of course honest people chose to present the verified science of evolution in schools and keep out the Creationist liars who would undermine science education and science literacy by pushing their anti-science Creationist horsecrap.Ghostriderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686873801972423841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-22194495344668577712016-01-11T12:40:01.815-08:002016-01-11T12:40:01.815-08:00Your belief in this is strong, I see. That doesn&...Your belief in this is strong, I see. That doesn't bother me. <br /><br />Evolutionists had a choice when it came to presenting their theory as indisputable science to school children and saw opposition by non-evolutionists: drop the subject and insist schools focus on science to help new generations (develop evidence for evolution) instead of creation mythos, or fight to push their view as hard as possible.<br /><br />This conversation has been an interesting case study and experience. However, like all good things, it must come to an end. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-6762771847713435992016-01-11T11:46:17.249-08:002016-01-11T11:46:17.249-08:00I don't know how they were created, but it'...I don't know how they were created, but it's easier to believe that given that they look created than to believe something manifestly absurd.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17904230581828301988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-27664514154699351842016-01-11T07:24:10.400-08:002016-01-11T07:24:10.400-08:00Did I do that?
"We don't wave around how ...Did I do that?<br />"We don't wave around how many dozens of predictions evolution has gotten wrong. "<br /><br />I wonder what predictions that might be.<br />Ed Vaessenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02905973956978663049noreply@blogger.com