tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post3061906899011678874..comments2024-01-23T02:32:28.567-08:00Comments on Darwin's God: It Didn’t End With the Sophists: Richard Leakey Explains the Fact of Evolution Will Someday Be Supported By the Evidence and, In Any Case, the World Wasn’t CreatedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-19915831423126226132012-05-29T04:11:10.079-07:002012-05-29T04:11:10.079-07:00vel, I would also like to point out how important ...vel, I would also like to point out how important our conscious choice is to determining our reality:<br /><br /> "Thus one decides the photon shall have come by one route or by both routes after it has already done its travel"<br /> John A. Wheeler<br /><br />Alain Aspect speaks on John Wheeler's Delayed Choice Experiment - video<br />http://vimeo.com/38508798<br /><br />Quantum physics mimics spooky action into the past - April 23, 2012<br />Excerpt: The authors experimentally realized a "Gedankenexperiment" called "delayed-choice entanglement swapping", formulated by Asher Peres in the year 2000. Two pairs of entangled photons are produced, and one photon from each pair is sent to a party called Victor. Of the two remaining photons, one photon is sent to the party Alice and one is sent to the party Bob. Victor can now choose between two kinds of measurements. If he decides to measure his two photons in a way such that they are forced to be in an entangled state, then also Alice's and Bob's photon pair becomes entangled. If Victor chooses to measure his particles individually, Alice's and Bob's photon pair ends up in a separable state. Modern quantum optics technology allowed the team to delay Victor's choice and measurement with respect to the measurements which Alice and Bob perform on their photons. "We found that whether Alice's and Bob's photons are entangled and show quantum correlations or are separable and show classical correlations can be decided after they have been measured", explains Xiao-song Ma, lead author of the study.<br />According to the famous words of Albert Einstein, the effects of quantum entanglement appear as "spooky action at a distance". The recent experiment has gone one remarkable step further. "Within a naïve classical world view, quantum mechanics can even mimic an influence of future actions on past events", says Anton Zeilinger.<br />http://phys.org/news/2012-04-quantum-physics-mimics-spooky-action.html<br /><br />i.e. In a atheistic worldview, where our choices really don't matter, this finding is certainly not to be expected, but in a Christian worldview, where our free will choice to accept Christ or not into our lives has drastic eternal consequences for us, this finding is not really all that surprising, and in fact, when you contemplate the severity of the consequence of the choice, is to be expected:<br /><br />Deuteronomy 30:19<br />"Today I have given you the choice between life and death, between blessings and curses. Now I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. Oh, that you would choose life, so that you and your descendants might live!<br /><br />Music:<br /><br />Third Day - Trust In Jesus<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BtaCeJYqZA<br /><br />Carrie Underwood - Temporary Home<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LraOiHUltakbornagain77https://www.blogger.com/profile/16666666037080692370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-72269042690256562252012-05-29T03:41:00.608-07:002012-05-29T03:41:00.608-07:00Also Bill Weise, in his following testimony, also ...Also Bill Weise, in his following testimony, also speaks of the putrid sulfuric smell he had smelt in his OBE of hell:<br /><br />Bill Wiese - 23 Minutes In Hell - 2010 video<br />http://www.vimeo.com/16641462<br /><br />It should also be noted: All foreign, non-Judeo-Christian culture, NDE studies I have looked at have a extreme rarity of encounters with 'The Being Of Light' and tend to be very unpleasant NDE's save for the few pleasant children's NDEs of those cultures that I've seen (It seems there is indeed an 'age of accountability'). The following study was shocking for what was found in some non-Judeo-Christian NDE's:<br /><br /> Near-Death Experiences in Thailand - Todd Murphy:<br /> Excerpt:The Light seems to be absent in Thai NDEs. So is the profound positive affect found in so many Western NDEs. The most common affect in our collection is negative. Unlike the negative affect in so many Western NDEs (cf. Greyson & Bush, 1992), that found in Thai NDEs (in all but case #11) has two recognizable causes. The first is fear of 'going'. The second is horror and fear of hell. It is worth noting that although half of our collection include seeing hell (cases 2,6,7,9,10) and being forced to witness horrific tortures, not one includes the NDEer having been subjected to these torments themselves.<br /> http://www.shaktitechnology.com/thaindes.htm<br /><br />further note on Vicki's 'blind' NDE:<br /><br />Kenneth Ring and Sharon Cooper (1997) conducted a study of 31 blind people, many of who reported vision during their Near Death Experiences (NDEs). 21 of these people had had an NDE while the remaining 10 had had an out-of-body experience (OBE), but no NDE. It was found that in the NDE sample, about half had been blind from birth. (of note: This 'anomaly' is also found for deaf people who can hear sound during their Near Death Experiences(NDEs).)<br />http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2320/is_1_64/ai_65076875/<br /><br />Coast to Coast - Vicki's Near Death Experience (Blind From Birth) part 1 of 3<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e65KhcCS5-Y<br /><br /> Quote from preceding video: 'I was in a body and the only way that I can describe it was a body of energy, or of light. And this body had a form. It had a head. It had arms and it had legs. And it was like it was made out of light. And 'it' was everything that was me. All of my memories, my consciousness, everything.' -<br /> Vicky Noratuk<br /><br />Are humans really beings of light?<br />Excerpt: "We now know, today, that man is essentially a being of light.",,, "There are about 100,000 chemical reactions happening in every cell each second. The chemical reaction can only happen if the molecule which is reacting is excited by a photon... Once the photon has excited a reaction it returns to the field and is available for more reactions... We are swimming in an ocean of light."<br />http://viewzone2.com/dna.html<br /><br />Verse and music:<br /><br /> 1 John 1:5-7<br /> "This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin."<br /><br />Toby Mac (In The Light)<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_MpGRQRrP0bornagain77https://www.blogger.com/profile/16666666037080692370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-4195820726470714312012-05-29T03:31:16.561-07:002012-05-29T03:31:16.561-07:00"So killing someone does nothing to harm the ..."So killing someone does nothing to harm the soul, then what is the big deal?"<br /><br />well, in the nihilistic fantasy world of atheism, of subjective morality, not even killing the body really matters does it vel? (just ask Stalin), but in the actual Theistic world of objective morality, where every careless word matters and has eternal consequences,,,<br /><br />Matthew 5<br />21 “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You shall not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ 22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. <br /><br />Revelation 21:8<br />But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, <b>the murderers,</b> the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."<br /><br />As to the 'fiery lake of burning sulfur', the following woman, in her following testimony about her Near Death Experience, a woman who has been blind since birth, speaks of seeing hell in her Near Death Experience at the 10 second mark of the following interview, <br /><br />coast to coast vicki's NDE part 2 of 3<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwlm2ZPSh-8<br /><br />Moreover Vicki speaks of smelling the putrid odor of hell, and having that smell match the smell of the sulfur balls brought to her by friends from Sodom and Gomorrah:<br /><br />The following video is downright eye-opening with its archeological evidence for authenticity of the Bible:<br /><br />The Physical Ashen Remains Of Sodom and Gomorrah - video<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwTVFk1HK3Ybornagain77https://www.blogger.com/profile/16666666037080692370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-69376504954084245232012-05-28T20:04:18.860-07:002012-05-28T20:04:18.860-07:00So you know it is wrong to kill because we are mad...So you know it is wrong to kill because we are made in God's image and because God breathed life into us. Which part looks like God, it cannot be a physical body? God is beyond natural,I assume from catechism it is our immortal soul. So killing someone does nothing to harm the soul, then what is the big deal?velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-13332900788946895372012-05-28T16:37:31.328-07:002012-05-28T16:37:31.328-07:00Moreover Scott, whether you believe in objective m...Moreover Scott, whether you believe in objective morality or not, when we die each one of us shall have to give account to infinitely holy God for every careless word we have spoken and careless deed we have done:<br /><br />Near Death Experience – The Tunnel, The Light, The Life Review – video<br />http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4200200/<br /><br />Matthew 12:36<br />I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak,<br /><br />Moreover vel, every man has fallen short of the perfection required to continuously dwell in the presence of God,,<br /><br />Top Ten Reasons We Know the New Testament is True – Frank Turek – video – November 2011<br />(41:00 minute mark – Despite what is commonly believed, of someone being 'good enough' to go to heaven, in reality both Mother Teresa and Hitler fall short of the moral perfection required to meet the perfection of God’s objective moral code)<br />http://saddleback.com/mc/m/5e22f/<br /><br />,,,and not one man can stand in the presence of almighty God without the propitiating sacrifice of Jesus Christ which atones for our sins:<br /><br />G.O.S.P.E.L. - poetry slam - video<br />https://vimeo.com/20960385 <br /><br />But alas vel, I can't make you accept Christ so that you will not be separated from God, all I can do is in my very flawed and finite ability try to warn you of the dire consequences you will bring on yourself by rejecting Christ's atoning sacrifice for your sins:<br /><br />A man, near the beginning of this following video, gives testimony of falling down a 'tunnel' in the transition stage from this world to hell:<br /><br />Hell - A Warning! - video<br />http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4131476/bornagain77https://www.blogger.com/profile/16666666037080692370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-75965882221778239342012-05-28T16:36:52.043-07:002012-05-28T16:36:52.043-07:00vel, whether you admit it or not, God 'hears&#...vel, whether you admit it or not, God 'hears' our every thought, word, and prayer.<br /><br />I find it extremely interesting, and strange, that quantum mechanics tells us that instantaneous quantum wave collapse to its 'uncertain' 3-D state is centered on each individual observer in the universe, whereas, 4-D space-time cosmology (General Relativity) tells us each 3-D point in the universe is central to the expansion of the universe. These findings of modern science are pretty much exactly what we would expect to see if this universe were indeed created, and sustained, from a higher dimension by a omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, eternal Being who knows everything that is happening everywhere in the universe at the same time. These findings certainly seem to go to the very heart of the age old question asked of many parents by their children, “How can God hear everybody’s prayers at the same time?”,,, i.e. Why should the expansion of the universe, or the quantum wave collapse of the entire universe, even care that you or I, or anyone else, should exist? Only Theism offers a rational explanation as to why you or I, or anyone else, should have such undeserved significance in such a vast universe:<br /><br /> Psalm 33:13-15<br /> The LORD looks from heaven; He sees all the sons of men. From the place of His dwelling He looks on all the inhabitants of the earth; He fashions their hearts individually; He considers all their works.<br /><br />Moreover vel, we have a eternal soul which cannot be destroyed:<br /><br />Does Quantum Biology Support A Quantum Soul? – Stuart Hameroff - video (notes in description)<br />http://vimeo.com/29895068<br /><br />Quantum Entangled Consciousness (Permanence 'conservation' of Quantum Information)- Life After Death - Stuart Hameroff - video<br />https://vimeo.com/39982578bornagain77https://www.blogger.com/profile/16666666037080692370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-49566552146487008932012-05-28T13:38:28.099-07:002012-05-28T13:38:28.099-07:00vel, you are completely, purposely, missing the po...vel, you are completely, purposely, missing the point. How do you yourself personally know that terrorizing and murdering people by crashing planes into skyscrapers is wrong? And why do you expect me to know that it is wrong. I personally have no problem accounting for why I know that it is wrong and why I expect you to know that it is wrong in that I hold we are made in God's image. Indeed I hold that God breathed a his 'breath' into us. You, in a atheistic worldview, simply cannot account for morality as is evidenced by your dancing around in circles to avoid admitting the truth:bornagain77https://www.blogger.com/profile/16666666037080692370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-31003794464996851002012-05-28T13:13:44.996-07:002012-05-28T13:13:44.996-07:00I was curious if you needed God's authority to...I was curious if you needed God's authority to decide killing innocents was wrong? Beyond your objective moral plane,are there any subjective reasons to feel it wrong?velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-69099811922312297312012-05-28T13:10:08.952-07:002012-05-28T13:10:08.952-07:00Is it possible to have an example of an objective ...Is it possible to have an example of an objective moral ?velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-64524105892758834552012-05-28T12:40:55.697-07:002012-05-28T12:40:55.697-07:00vel, so you deny objective morality all the while ...vel, so you deny objective morality all the while claiming that you automatically know, and I should also automatically know, without a priest ever informing us, that terrorists ramming jets into skyscrapers to murder innocent people is evil.,,, So are you saying that even though you automatically know this moral it is still subjective to you? Your argumentation is simply ludicrous vel! But hey it is free country you can believe anything you want no matter how ludicrous, as Scott so clearly demonstrates:<br /><br />notes:<br /><br />The Knock-Down Argument Against Atheist Sam Harris' moral landscape argument – William Lane Craig – video<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL_vAH2NIPc<br /><br />Richard Dawkins and the Moral Argument for God by William Lane Craig - video<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f3I2QGpucs<br /><br />At Emory University, Consternation over Ben Carson, Evolution, and Morality - Richard Weikart - May 10, 2012<br />Excerpt: If Emory University (biology) professors want to argue that evolution has no ethical implications, they are free to make that argument (I wonder how many of them actually believe this). However, if they do, they need to recognize that they are not just arguing against "benighted" anti-evolutionists, but against many of their cherished colleagues in evolutionary biology, including Darwin himself.<br />http://www.evolutionnews.org/2012/05/at_emory_univer_1059491.htmlbornagain77https://www.blogger.com/profile/16666666037080692370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-35941638851900096552012-05-28T08:09:19.884-07:002012-05-28T08:09:19.884-07:00BA,
What about the rival interpretation that som...BA, <br /><br />What about the rival interpretation that some alien civilization genetically programmed us us to think ramming airplanes into buildings is a bad thing when they planted us here as a future food source?<br /><br />After all, if we kill each other off, then there would be significantly fewer of us to eat when they return. <br /><br />And that's just one I came up with off the top of my head. There are an infinite number of interpretations that accept the same evidence, (we do not need a priest to tell us that ramming a plane into a building is a bad idea) yet suggest something completely different is going on in reality. (to maximize their food supply) <br /><br />Why have you picked this your particular interpretation, rather than another?Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11193595678064010528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-28652893852248843372012-05-28T07:55:36.543-07:002012-05-28T07:55:36.543-07:00So not even one? Then it is foolish to believe you...So not even one? Then it is foolish to believe you could tell objective from subjective.velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-92024290664348334732012-05-28T07:52:59.955-07:002012-05-28T07:52:59.955-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11193595678064010528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-87197760553615898372012-05-28T07:01:49.510-07:002012-05-28T07:01:49.510-07:00i>bornagain77 May 27, 2012 4:15 PM
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Whil...i><b>bornagain77</b> May 27, 2012 4:15 PM<br /><br />[...]<br /><br />While we're at it, let's take a little closer look at Craig's defense of his claims:<br /><br /><i>By objective values and duties, one means values and duties that are valid and binding independent of human opinion. A good many atheists and theists alike concur with premise (1). For given a naturalistic worldview, human beings are just animals, and activity that we count as murder, torture, and rape is natural and morally neutral in the animal kingdom. Moreover, if there is no one to command or prohibit certain actions, how can we have moral obligations or prohibitions?</i><br /><br />'Objective' is usually opposed to 'subjective', in other words, objective is whatever is not of the subject. There is a red car in the parking lot outside. If I conjure up an image of it in my mind or dream about it, that imagined or dream image is subjective, it ceases to exists when I stop dreaming or thinking about it. <br /><br />The color of the car is also arguably subjective. We know from physics that the car, to be perceived as red, is reflecting certain wavelengths of light and absorbing others. The redness, however, is how those wavelengths are represented in our visual model, so the color itself is a subjective experience.<br /><br />The car itself, on the other hand, is not subjective. It does not cease to exist, I assume, whenever I'm not aware of it. I can, if I want, see it, hear it, touch it, taste it and smell it and so can anyone else who happens by. It is, by any reasonable definition of the word, objective.<br /><br />Defining objective values and duties as those which are "valid and binding independent of human opinion" is curious. "Valid" usually refers to logical arguments which are formally correct or, perhaps, a claim which has legal warrant or authority. However, our laws are subjective. If the entire human race were to be wiped from the surface of this planet by some cosmic disaster, we assume that the planet would continue to exist but our laws would be gone with us. Alien explorers visiting Earth would find no trace of our laws hanging around in the air or fossilized in the ground.<br /><br />Thus, the reason why murder, torture and rape do not exist as such in other animal societies is because they are defined and prohibited by <i>human</i> laws which were drafted and enacted by <i>human legislatures</i> and which are held to have jurisdiction only within <i>human</i> societies.<br /><br />As for that old chestnut "how can we have moral obligations or prohibitions?" what is to prevent us from working them out for ourselves? Yes, we are subject to what used to be called animal impulses and appetites but that is not <i>all</i> we are. We can imagine and do better and without the alleged benefits of faith although I do not deny that religion <i>can</i> be a force for good although, as the old musical number goes, it ain't necessarily so.<br /><br />Craig seem to think that his second premiss is the more vulnerable but, in my view, his first is just as exposed if not more so. Either way, his argument fails.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11311738457332907931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-13408400974068001322012-05-28T06:07:58.356-07:002012-05-28T06:07:58.356-07:00'And really wouldn't need a priest to tell...'And really wouldn't need a priest to tell me that ramming a plane into a building was a bad thing, how about you?'bornagain77https://www.blogger.com/profile/16666666037080692370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-28392766548231744902012-05-28T05:59:10.512-07:002012-05-28T05:59:10.512-07:00That example of an objective moral was?That example of an objective moral was?velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-80253606223267762022012-05-28T01:00:24.178-07:002012-05-28T01:00:24.178-07:00bornagain77 May 27, 2012 4:15 PM
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The moral...<i><b>bornagain77</b> May 27, 2012 4:15 PM<br /><br />[...]<br /><br />The moral argument - Dr. Craig: <br />A number of ethicists, such as Robert Adams, William Alston, Mark Linville, Paul Copan, John Hare, Stephen Evans, and others have defended "divine command" theories of ethics, ...</i><br /><br />Yes, and you can find a number of critics as well. So what?<br /><br /><i>...which support various moral arguments for God's existence. One such argument:<br /><br />1. If God does not exist, objective moral values and duties do not exist.</i><br /><br /><i>Non sequitur</i>. Why should the existence of <i>objective</i> moral values be dependent on the existence of God or any other intelligent, conscious being? In fact, it is arguable that to be truly objective they must be independent of any individual awareness and that, conversely, if they <i>are</i> dependent on the existence of a particular being, they cannot be truly objective. <br /><br /><i>2. Objective moral values and duties do exist.</i><br /><br />Craig says they do. I say they do not. Assertions prove nothing either way.<br /><br /><i>3. Therefore, God exists.</i><br /><br />That is a <i>valid</i> conclusion <i>if, and only if, </i>the premisses stand. The premisses are vulnerable to and, in my view, fall before certain attacks so Craig's argument fails.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11311738457332907931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-79339238763843505402012-05-27T19:59:27.132-07:002012-05-27T19:59:27.132-07:00Many of these researchers also raise the question ...Many of these researchers also raise the question (among others), why — even after inducing literally billions of induced mutations and (further) chromosome rearrangements — all the important mutation breeding programs have come to an end in the Western World instead of eliciting a revolution in plant breeding, either by successive rounds of selective “micromutations” (cumulative selection in the sense of the modern synthesis), or by “larger mutations” … and why the law of recurrent variation is endlessly corroborated by the almost infinite repetition of the spectra of mutant phenotypes in each and any new extensive mutagenesis experiment (as predicted) instead of regularly producing a range of new systematic species…<br />(Wolf-Ekkehard Lönnig, “Mutagenesis in Physalis pubescens L. ssp. floridana: Some Further Research on Dollo’s Law and the Law of Recurrent Variation,” Floriculture and Ornamental Biotechnology Vol. 4 (Special Issue 1): 1-21 (December 2010).)<br />http://www.evolutionnews.org/2010/12/peer-reviewed_research_paper_o042191.html<br /><br />In fact the Darwinian meta-narrative has in fact been a hindrance to biological science:<br /><br />Neo-Darwinism’s negative effect on science and society<br />https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lwdaq8r5K0JbzNtTU4-UqB3t-giK2-hUlsFrNDiJ7Ok/editbornagain77https://www.blogger.com/profile/16666666037080692370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-1715560242931270082012-05-27T19:40:36.320-07:002012-05-27T19:40:36.320-07:00"the people who actually do the science - the..."the people who actually do the science - the biologists - find it useful and the vast majority of them do."<br /><br />wrong again, belief in a metaphysics is considerably different from scientifically 'useful':<br /><br /> "Certainly, my own research with antibiotics during World War II received no guidance from insights provided by Darwinian evolution. Nor did Alexander Fleming's discovery of bacterial inhibition by penicillin. I recently asked more than 70 eminent researchers if they would have done their work differently if they had thought Darwin's theory was wrong. The responses were all the same: No.<br /> Philip S. Skell - (the late) Professor at Pennsylvania State University.<br /> http://www.discovery.org/a/2816<br /><br />Podcasts and Article of Dr. Skell<br />http://www.evolutionnews.org/2010/11/giving_thanks_for_dr_philip_sk040981.html<br /><br />Science Owes Nothing To Darwinian Evolution - Jonathan Wells - video<br />http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4028096<br /><br />"nobody to date has yet found a demarcation criterion according to which Darwin(ism) can be described as scientific" - Imre Lakatos (November 9, 1922 – February 2, 1974) a philosopher of mathematics and science, quote was as stated in 1973 LSE Scientific Method Lecture<br /><br />On the Fundamental Difference Between Darwin-Inspired and Intelligent Design-Inspired Lawsuits - September 2011<br />Excerpt: Darwin lobby litigation: In every Darwin-inspired case listed above, the Darwin lobby sought to shut down free speech, stopping people from talking about non-evolutionary views, and seeking to restrict freedom of intellectual inquiry.<br />http://www.evolutionnews.org/2011/09/on_the_fundamental_difference_050451.html<br /><br />"Evolution is the only 'scientific theory' that needs laws to protect it!" Author Unknownbornagain77https://www.blogger.com/profile/16666666037080692370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-52499159033556356992012-05-27T19:35:31.024-07:002012-05-27T19:35:31.024-07:00bornagain77 May 27, 2012 11:26 AM
Actually if you...<i><b>bornagain77</b> May 27, 2012 11:26 AM<br /><br />Actually if you want to falsely accuse God of murder instead of righteous judgement against sinful man then you can attribute all the deaths on the face of earth that have ever happened to God and get a far higher figure than what you have biasedly listed. As for your claim that Communism is not atheistic in its foundational that is simply ludicrous and reveals your dogmatism. </i><br /><br />The evidence for the acts committed by God and His people are in the accounts of the Old Testament set down for all to see. Any falsehood or unreliability are in there.<br /><br />As for Communism, I have never claimed that it was not atheistic. It certainly was - and is - but the atrocities committed by the various Communist regimes were done in the name of the Communist revolution, party and political ideology which happened to be atheist not atheism itself.<br /><i>ans Since you listed Sodom and Gomorrah, and you actually hold them to be merely 'myth', since you, in your atheism, hold there to be no God, why does the following video give a very different account as to the reality of the event than what you believe to be true???</i><br /><br />You must be confusing me with someone else. I have never argued that the cities Sodom and Gomorrah were mythical although I do think that the story of their destruction was embellished and turned to serve the interests of the early Christians.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11311738457332907931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-59484148372809140952012-05-27T19:18:38.025-07:002012-05-27T19:18:38.025-07:00bornagain77 May 27, 2012 2:05 PM
Ian, neo-Darwini...<i><b>bornagain77</b> May 27, 2012 2:05 PM<br /><br />Ian, neo-Darwinism is pseudo-science period. For you to 'innocently' pretend there is no competing hypothesis, which accounts for the facts far better than Darwinism, is self imposed blindness on your part!</i><br /><br />It doesn't matter what you think of "neo-Darwinism" any more than it does what I think of it. What matters is whether the people who actually <i>do</i> the science - the biologists - find it useful and the vast majority of them do. You may not like it but that's the way it is.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11311738457332907931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-64880142641478763542012-05-27T18:58:57.383-07:002012-05-27T18:58:57.383-07:00Well vel, you are in quite a Dilemma, you readily ...Well vel, you are in quite a Dilemma, you readily admit that objective morals exist. In fact you asked me,,, 'And really wouldn't need a priest to tell me that ramming a plane into a building was a bad thing, how about you?' Yet you seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that you can't account for why I should automatically 'know' that what they did was evil! i.e. Exactly where is the objective moral to 'know' what they did was evil coming from?<br /><br />Romans 2:14<br />Even Gentiles, who do not have God's written law, show that they know his law when they instinctively obey it, even without having heard it.bornagain77https://www.blogger.com/profile/16666666037080692370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-56028598410543628782012-05-27T18:45:40.939-07:002012-05-27T18:45:40.939-07:00A concrete example please,this should be easy,righ...A concrete example please,this should be easy,right?velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-17410250452284478202012-05-27T18:41:42.324-07:002012-05-27T18:41:42.324-07:00Isn't Divine Command the argument Craig used t...Isn't Divine Command the argument Craig used to defended the slaughter of defeated enemies by the Jews? <br /><br />Defend proposition 2. What is an objective moral, and what is an objective moral duty. How do you know have objectivity?velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-15182486063208098312012-05-27T18:32:45.917-07:002012-05-27T18:32:45.917-07:00You know of course that your moral code is not rea...You know of course that your moral code is not really objective, just because you say it is backed up by God's authority? How did you decide which was the True God?velikovskyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957523527184649923noreply@blogger.com