tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post2574478810270087159..comments2024-01-23T02:32:28.567-08:00Comments on Darwin's God: Retro Virus Turned Evolutionary HeroUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-7708089485227366782012-12-05T19:40:23.491-08:002012-12-05T19:40:23.491-08:00Yes, I Agree and even THAT, they will pile on the ...Yes, I Agree and even THAT, they will pile on the Mountain or landfill of group think Darwits, its gotten so even their ridicule is just more evidence evolution is a fact. How do I know? Because my questioning it at all, makes me wicked and evil. Just as Dick Dawkins. What we have ended up with is lower rankings in science, and a bunch of over fluoridated zombies like David, thinking that pathetic pile of piltdown paleontology and faux fossil frauds, is the overwhelming mountain of evidence while not showing so much as a pebble off that hill. Kent Perry AKA Conspiriologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01961622731107610773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-16322594336120466132010-07-19T09:15:35.194-07:002010-07-19T09:15:35.194-07:00oleg:
Guys, you don't seem to understand Corne...oleg:<br /><i>Guys, you don't seem to understand Cornelius's tactics.</i><br /><br />We sure as hell understand your tactics- bluff, pontificate, insult, degrade but never, under any circumstances produce any positive evidence for your position.Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-37539805092320839142010-07-19T09:14:09.130-07:002010-07-19T09:14:09.130-07:00smokey:
It's interesting that you ignored the ...smokey:<br /><i>It's interesting that you ignored the vast history of the study of retroviral promoter insertions as a cause of cancer.</i><br /><br />How is that even relevant?<br /><br />Are you saying cancer is evidence for universal common descent?Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-1315079465302316952010-07-19T09:11:50.916-07:002010-07-19T09:11:50.916-07:00David:
Allen MacNeill's list of "engines ...David:<br /><i>Allen MacNeill's list of "engines of variation" for a longer list.</i><br /><br />Too bad Allen doesn't seem to understand the debate- hint "evolution" isn't being debated and Allen cannot produce any evidence that his "engines of variation" are due to blind, undirected chemical processes.<br /><br />As I have told Allen several times he needs to read "Not By Chance" or else he will continue to misrepresent his opponents position and continue to make flase claims about his.Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-17261909044193525642010-07-14T10:30:41.300-07:002010-07-14T10:30:41.300-07:00Guys, you don't seem to understand Cornelius&#...Guys, you don't seem to understand Cornelius's tactics. It's called the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duane_Gish#Debates" rel="nofollow">Gish Gallop</a>. By the time you raise your objections, he has already moved on to the next post. <br /><br />So relax and enjoy the ride.oleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11644793385433232819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-57208127816040438202010-07-13T13:39:14.934-07:002010-07-13T13:39:14.934-07:00You mean that cancer and evolution are linked in s...You mean that cancer and evolution are linked in some way - that there is some global unity to biology?<br /><br />Yikes!Pedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-74065552801488977162010-07-13T11:48:13.484-07:002010-07-13T11:48:13.484-07:00Dr. Hunter,
It's interesting that you ignored...Dr. Hunter,<br /><br />It's interesting that you ignored the vast history of the study of retroviral promoter insertions as a cause of cancer.<br /><br />Can't confuse the rubes with reality, now, can we?Smokeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05904417073935434187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-23022971944392304942010-07-13T05:49:29.949-07:002010-07-13T05:49:29.949-07:00Cornelius again tries to overturn science with sna...Cornelius again tries to overturn science with snark. <br /><br />That mobile genetic elements can regulate gene expression goes back to McClintock, and Britten–Davidson theory predicted this in the 1960's!<br /><br />The actual 2007 paper is open access here:<br />http://www.pnas.org/content/104/47/18613.full<br /><br />p53 sites are observed within retroviral insertions. These functionally regulate nearby genes. The species-specific differences correlate with phylogeny, ages of divergence, linage specificity of retroviruses, etc. <br /><br />That is some of the data. I guess the options are the retrovirus bearing the site inserted, the p53 site was later acquired in some insertions through an unknown process (unlikely), or ??Cornelius' idiotic implication free-hypothesis??RobertChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15755085870566406648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-40226025012123706672010-07-13T05:40:08.759-07:002010-07-13T05:40:08.759-07:00So this would mean there is another explanation fo...So this would mean there is another explanation for the existance of similar ERV's in different species besides evolution. They were put there by the designer because they serve a purpose. And the evolutionary explanaion requires that somehow the ERV's were co-opted for a purpose that serves the host organism. How lucky is that?natschusterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13127240463824366637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-35414799811134056472010-07-13T05:38:44.723-07:002010-07-13T05:38:44.723-07:00If anyone cares, the full free text of the Wang pa...If anyone cares, the full free text of the Wang paper is here:<br /><br />http://www.pnas.org/content/104/47/18613.long<br /><br />It's been cited by 11 other papers in the PubMed database.Pedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-85319684986485490372010-07-13T05:28:30.563-07:002010-07-13T05:28:30.563-07:00Now it appears that another level of evolution occ...<i>Now it appears that another level of evolution occurs that is not driven by point mutations.</i><br /><br />This is news? You've never heard of genetic recombination, gene duplication, deletions, insertions, inversions, etc, etc,?<br /><br />See:<br /><br />http://evolutionlist.blogspot.com/2007/10/rm-ns-creationist-and-id-strawman.html<br /><br />Allen MacNeill's list of "engines of variation" for a longer list.<br /><br />Filed under: CluelessnessPedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-62761013687428669732010-07-13T05:07:51.818-07:002010-07-13T05:07:51.818-07:00You cannot make this stuff up.
Apparently, it was...<i>You cannot make this stuff up.</i><br /><br />Apparently, it wasn't made up, but observed.<br /><br />Here we have another example of an ordinary biological discovery triggering an emotional rant by Dr Hunter.<br /><br />For an example of similar work, see:<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18535086<br /><br /><i>Retroviral promoters in the human genome</i><br /><br />From the abstract:<br /><br /><i>These data illustrate the potential of retroviral sequences to regulate human transcription on a large scale consistent with a substantial effect of ERVs on the function and evolution of the human genome.</i><br /><br />Filed under: IncredulityPedanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656298969231453877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-71671658460059299432010-07-13T04:59:56.333-07:002010-07-13T04:59:56.333-07:00Thomas Edison said that success is 10 percent insp...Thomas Edison said that success is 10 percent inspiration and 90 percent perspiration. In the case of evolution we see 10 percent information and 90 percent speculation. <br /><br />It's great that the mechanism for evolution has now been discovered. I wonder why the evolutionists did not admit that the theory did not work before this paper? With this breakthrough I am sure we will soon see an actual experiment which demonstrates how a new creature can evolve.<br />.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05067396087460502962noreply@blogger.com