tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post2340635811840764801..comments2024-01-23T02:32:28.567-08:00Comments on Darwin's God: BioLogos, Broken Genes, and Urate OxidaseUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-75586087245243017312016-06-16T13:42:25.440-07:002016-06-16T13:42:25.440-07:00The combinatorial explosion is the reason that pas...The combinatorial explosion is the reason that password encryption becomes unbreakable with just a handful of code letters. Not even a massive parallel computer the size of multiple universes can break modern encryption codes.<br /><br />But somehow, brain dead materialists and Darwinists figured out that random dirt molecules gave birth to life and that random mutations gave rise to complex living organisms.<br /><br />This is why I call them dirt worshippers, morons and pathological liars.<br /><br />But they are much worse than dirt worshippers, IMO. They are traitors to their own species for deceiving millions of people about their true origin. Where did we come from? This is the most important question of them all. All materialists and Darwinists should be immediately fired from all positions of authority. They should be vilified and ridiculed, even tarred and feathered and paraded down the street.<br /><br />Now don't get all worked up. It's just a metaphorical phantasy.<br /><br />ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...Rebel Sciencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762287159937757216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-28384233647922234392016-06-16T13:35:43.463-07:002016-06-16T13:35:43.463-07:00Good point. More than hundreds? Yes, I do think so...Good point. More than hundreds? Yes, I do think so. There are probably many thousands of known globin sequences right now (though I've never looked into this myself). But as you know, these numbers are all in the noise, as far as helping to explain how a globin could have evolved.Cornelius Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283098537456505707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-25752829074908602142016-06-16T13:14:10.004-07:002016-06-16T13:14:10.004-07:00Hi Cornelius
Yes, I agree with your point. Thanks...Hi Cornelius<br />Yes, I agree with your point. Thanks for the clarification. As you can see below I did mention there may be hundreds version of globulin. Do you think there are more than hundreds of potential versions?<br /><br />"If you take the protein hemoglobin it is made up of 4 protein sub units each with around 140 amino acids. There may be hundreds of sequences that can function like hemoglobin"Bill Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06642212549806694659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-58076562524190826902016-06-16T12:47:03.627-07:002016-06-16T12:47:03.627-07:00However Bill, there are many different sequences t...However Bill, there are many different sequences that successfully form a globin. So we're not talking about 1 out of 20^140. Furthermore, evolutionists will say you can create a globin from a smaller set of amino acids. So it is not 20^140, but more like 10 or less, to the 140.<br /><br />To get a rough approximation, this is where the various experiments help, showing that we're looking at something like 1 out of 10^70 for a protein smaller than a globin, say of 80-100 residues.Cornelius Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283098537456505707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-20311561747708132622016-06-16T11:45:09.358-07:002016-06-16T11:45:09.358-07:00Hi Tommy
The sequential space or combinatorial exp...Hi Tommy<br />The sequential space or combinatorial explosion is based on sequences which is a property of probability theory. An example of a sequence is your cell phone number. There are 10 possible numbers 0 through 9 and 10 numbers in the sequence. If you want to calculate the sequential space (the total possible phone numbers) you talk the total amount of numbers 10 to the power of the length of the sequence or 10^10. or 1 with 10 zero's after it. Ten multiplied by itself 10 times. The number grows by 10 times every time you add a digit to the sequence. At 80 digits you are describing the number of atoms in the universe. This is what Louis calls a combinatorial explosion. <br /><br />I life DNA is a sequence and so are proteins. In itself it is very interesting that they have the same mathematical properties as phone numbers and most western languages.<br /><br />If you take the protein hemoglobin it is made up of 4 protein sub units each with around 140 amino acids. There may be hundreds of sequences that can function like hemoglobin but each sub unit has 20^140 possible combinations of amino acids (we have 20 different amino acids) So the possible ways to arrange hemoglobin is larger then the number of atoms in our universe. There is no way for this to form by trial and error, you need the code. This is why Cornelius, Louis and I are skeptical that a single protein can form by trial and error or known evolutionary processes.<br /><br />Hope this helps. Please come back with questions.Bill Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06642212549806694659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-24503292242611561442016-06-09T17:36:54.136-07:002016-06-09T17:36:54.136-07:00Bill Cole could you explain this problem? Or point...Bill Cole could you explain this problem? Or point me to a source that will. Tommy Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15943150628589342695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-45080241565170723202016-06-06T16:37:33.402-07:002016-06-06T16:37:33.402-07:00You may be right but we will see how it goes. I t...You may be right but we will see how it goes. I think you and Cornelius are two of only a had full of people who truly understand the magnitude of the sequential space problem of DNA and proteins. The problem that you refer to as the combinatorial explosion. I am hoping to get VJT to see this more clearly.Bill Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06642212549806694659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-64779154602903969702016-06-06T16:17:01.801-07:002016-06-06T16:17:01.801-07:00I think VJT is going full BioLogos on us. This is ...I think VJT is going full BioLogos on us. This is to be expected from a Catholic philosopher, in my opinion. The Catholic Church has been straddling the fence on evolution for years. No one really knows where they stand on the subject. It's a Holy Mystery of the Sacred Heart, or something.Rebel Sciencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762287159937757216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-87080794373093052732016-06-06T15:46:42.145-07:002016-06-06T15:46:42.145-07:00Hi Louis
I think VJT is just trying to stir up dis...Hi Louis<br />I think VJT is just trying to stir up discussion. Your points are well taken and you will see I have challenged him several times. I am interested to see his response. Although I do not agree at all with the points VJT is making, I think his promotion of this debate is healthy.Bill Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06642212549806694659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-81497677524485722362016-06-06T15:41:55.776-07:002016-06-06T15:41:55.776-07:00Well said, Louis!Well said, Louis!Truth Will Set You Freehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10570743080797349168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-56934041208054746932016-06-06T14:48:42.248-07:002016-06-06T14:48:42.248-07:00I see that Vincent Torley is still beating the com...I see that Vincent Torley is still beating the common descent drum over at <a href="http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/consider-the-opossum-the-evidence-for-common-descent/" rel="nofollow">Uncommon Descent</a> by arguing in favor of Dennis Venema's position:<br /><br /><i>Let me begin with a short definition. The term synteny simply refers to the condition of two or more genes, which may or may not be linked, being located on the same chromosome. The term shared synteny refers to the fact that in different species of animals, the spatial arrangement of genes on a chromosome is often conserved: not only do we find the same genes, but we find them in the same order along the same chromosome. In a nutshell, Professor Venema’s argument is that shared synteny is best explained by the hypothesis of common ancestry.</i><br /><br />Why is it so hard for supposedly intelligent people to understand that shared characteristics between distant species are not evidence for common descent but evidence for common design?<br /><br />Would Torley and Venema have us believe that the text editing code found in many computer programs are evidence that the programs share a common ancestor via common descent? Design reuse is time tested principle of intelligent design. In fact, it is enforced as a rule in software design and engineering. I see no random mutations and natural selection in this picture.<br /><br />I fully expect this sort of error or rather, equivocation, from the usual lying Darwinists but Torley? What's wrong with this picture?Rebel Sciencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762287159937757216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-38342178720088552982016-06-06T07:48:28.321-07:002016-06-06T07:48:28.321-07:00Another great article. Computational biology will ...Another great article. Computational biology will be the undoing of Darwinism.Rebel Sciencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762287159937757216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-23025951627992324252016-06-06T03:32:29.840-07:002016-06-06T03:32:29.840-07:00"First, the argument assumes that these mutat..."First, the argument assumes that these mutations are meaningless or harmful."-<br /><br />good point. one evidence for this claim is the hOR17-210 pseudogene. it have a stop codon in the middle of the gene, but its actually code for a functional protein:<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18802787<br /><br />so maybe all those stop codons may have a functional meaning. just maybe.scdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00260945727618051024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3855268335402896473.post-73418465609873128382016-06-06T03:08:11.322-07:002016-06-06T03:08:11.322-07:00What or how exactly was the "natural law"...What or how exactly was the "natural law"of evolution written? Barry L. Ickeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14573546329850377179noreply@blogger.com